Talk:Vancouver Island territorial dispute

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Removing Canada

Why is Canada itself on here? One, this is a MICRONATIONAL dispute, not something Canada is directly involved in, and two, their only supporter dissolved immediately after stating their opinion on the matter. I would like permission to remove them from the article. ImperatorofOrini (talk) 12:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Canada shouldn't be under claimants. This is a micronationalist dispute where their only micronational supporter dissolved shortly after proclaiming their support. I request Canada be removed from the article. ImperatorofOrini (talk) 12:24, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@ImperatorofOrini: Tried, got reverted. Proof border style="color:black" addison (talk) 02:57, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
All it says is claimants not micronational claimants do they not claim the island? If they claim the island should they not be in the claimant section? Also several prominent micronations recognize Canada's claim. Isaiah (Chat) 05:40, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
@Isaiah Burdette: I quite literally just said that its a micronational territory dispute. There should be no reason to include Canada as they are not active in said dispute nor are they even aware it exists. This is MicroWiki, not CanadaWiki border style="color:black" addison (talk) 05:53, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
You said that not the article. They dispute Canada's claim it belongs, not recognizing it is disputing it Isaiah (Chat) 06:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
@Isaiah Burdette: You're missing the point: Canada doesn't know the dispute even exists, nor do they want to take part in it. Not recognizing a certain country's claim to something doesn't instantly make said country a party in a potential dispute, as is the case here with Canada. I have no idea why this is even an argument. If you want a part with countries that recognize no micronation's claim to Vancouver Island, replace Canada with "does not recognize" border style="color:black" addison (talk) 06:53, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
They are by default part of it, even if they don't know it exists people are still disputing there claim to the island and therefore they are part of it. Isaiah (Chat) 14:53, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
@Isaiah Burdette: Once again, Canada has no knowledge that this even exists, so how in the fricking hell can they be an active disputer? And once again, this is a micronational territory dispute between micronations. Per MW:NOT, there should be no reason to include Canada as they are not a micronation; you are treating this as if it were Wikipedia when it isn't. If it takes your micronation off the list, oh well; sorry you're not getting any notoriety from an informative website. border style="color:black" addison (talk) 21:17, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
I didn't say this was Wikipedia but they dispute Canada's claim so Canada stays. I never even compared this to Wikipedia they are a active disputer last time I checked they say the land is there's.
@Isaiah Burdette: Please refer to "they are not a micronation" border style="color:black" addison (talk) 02:32, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
They don't need to be a micronation there claim is disputed therefore they are involved. Isaiah (Chat) 03:27, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
For the fifth fucking time, this an article about micronations. Canada is not a micronation and does not belong on a wiki about them, especially an article referring to a dispute between micronations, and only micronations. border style="color:black" addison (talk) 03:40, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
It's a article about a territorial dispute and land, which can include a macronation there claims are disputed and they belong Isaiah (Chat) 12:25, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Screenshots as evidence for Ela'r'oech's proven support

While Ela'r'oech will be supporting the Nexan Republic, I'd rather make an article on the ENS about it and cite that. Ela'r'oech Charles (talk) 17:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Journalistic integrity

Vancouver Island is not a province. It is part of the existing Canadian province of British Columbia. Get educated about Canada's geography and current provincial boundaries before you post inaccurate comments on this website please. Orbovia (talk) 22:24, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Pretty sure that Connor's edit was referring to the West Canadian province of Vancouver Island, as in West Canada it is a separate province from British Columbia. Just clearing this up. UOMS (talk) 10:46, 5 May 2021 UTC.
Apologies, yes that's what I was referring to. In the Dominion of West Canada, Vancouver Island was granted it's own Provincial Government to help ensure that local affairs are taken care up more efficiently and local-minded. User:Connor (talk)

Important Update Regarding Page

My name is President Devin Purcell, I am from the Penn Federal Republic. I recently reached out to the Dominion of Vancouver Island's Twitter, and they have stated that this is all a misunderstanding, and rather they are not unstable or weak, they were simply in a parliamentary crisis, and have renamed themselves to the Dominion of British North America. I revoked my support for the Dominion of West Canada at the news, and the Penn Federal Republic has signed mutual recognition with the Dominion of British North America (formally Dominion of Vancouver Island) and we recognize their rightful claims. We wish to end this territorial dispute and hand it back to the micronation that claimed it, and has been living in the island, the Dominion of British North America. Devinpurcell (talk) 12:11, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Devinpurcell: So? This is the talk page to discuss the page itself, not a place for you to discuss your diplomacy with VISSR. UOMS (talk) 12:42, 6 May 2021 UTC.
@UOMS: I do not hold diplomacy with the VISSR, I am trying to resolve this issue that was started by a misunderstanding. The Dominion of Vancouver Island never fell, therefore their claims should not be up for claiming. Devinpurcell (talk) 13:16, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
Do it privately, this is only for things about the article whether it's a misunderstanding or not that's irrelevant and should be delt ith privately and then the article can be updated if the misunderstanding is resolved. Isaiah (Chat) 14:55, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Devinpurcell We thank you for your support and value your friendship with the Dominion of Vancouver Island. - Matthew Baker, Minister of Foreign Affairs VISSR (talk) 04:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

As stated before, I would like to nominate this article for deletion. It is fake and there is no reason for it to exist.

ImperatorofOrini (talk) 21:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Deletion

I'm gonna just create a new section for the talk page. Anyways, there is no reason at all for this page to be deleted. It's not "fake" as some say as it was clearly a real event with the many contributions to the page and references (although they could be from a better source rather than Discord.) Smoke.gifdalek Talk 03:46, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion

This article was created to defame and slander the Dominion of Vancouver Island by falsely claiming there was, and ultimately creating, a territorial conflict. I have screenshotted evidence to back this up if asked and already have it uploaded, though finding it here may be difficult.

It is also of extremely poor quality, with entire sections largely being biased towards Connor Shaw's Dominions, the Nexan Republic largely using Discord-based evidence to back up claims, and the factual accuracy of the article itself being in quite a dispute as to be one of the primary reasons of this nomination.

I would to kindly ask that discourse be respectful. ImperatorofOrini (talk) 03:54, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

@ImperatorofOrini: This article does not meet our deletion policies, if there are concerns on the quality of the page, please look to improve it and remove bias rather then trying to get it removed. Sir Archie Birch 21:33, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

If I showed you evidence it was initially faked would there be grounds for deletion? ImperatorofOrini (talk) 19:35, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

The page should clearly reflect the fact that this wasn't a real dispute, but an internet hoax. VISSR (talk) 15:50, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

The Vancouver Island Dispute was a real situation within the micronational community, not just an internet hoax. How'd you come to that conclusion @VISSR:? User:Auxs-arxs (talk) 23:44, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Dubious article

The Vancouver Island territorial "dispute" was little more than an online hoax that began on Twitter several months ago. This would be harmless if not for the fact that this article is written to give the impression that it describes an actual series of events. Subsequently, a large portion of the micronational community was fooled into believing it was a real dispute. We are not opposed to comedy, but simply propose that the article be edited to accurately reflect its origin as a parody. —Preceding unsigned comment added by VISSR (talkcontribs)

Article Cleanup and Improvement.

This article is planned for a revision, along with providing logs and updates of all events that have been ongoing to date should this article stay up. Additionally claims and other dubious tags will be solved with new data, Evidence and backing of claims. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chancellor Desslok (talkcontribs)

Article Accuracy

People have stated that this article is somehow a hoax, or false. This was an event that had competing sides, Nations competing for recognition, Plans against one another to Win over supporters from other disputer nation's sides, and articles written about this dispute on west Canada's brodcasting company.

The Nexus has been writing an event log of what has been transpiring in the past several months leading up to now. They will be listed in an "Ongoing Developments" section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chancellor Desslok (talkcontribs)

Article contains inaccurate information

Since the article is edit-protected, and content can not be changed, please be advised that the section claiming that the Dominion of Vancouver Island dissolved is incorrect. This micronation has been active and functioning before, during, and after this dispute. For the sake of historical accuracy, please ensure all information is correct and backed up by facts before posting.

Regards,

Dustin Carlson Governor General of Vancouver Island @VISSR VISSR (talk) 05:30, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

That is NOT the case and you know it! Why are you so hell-bent on lying about this? Auxs-arxs (talk) 02:10, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
I would like to present this now-deleted tweet that says the VISSR dissolved. Auxs-arxs (talk) 02:45, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

That's not the Dominion of Vancouver Island. Some attempts were made by citizens interested in reviving the previous VISSR one-party government, but were unsuccessful. This has been well documented, and is common knowledge amongst most members of the micronational community. VISSR (talk) 04:24, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2022

Article is outdated. Suggesting that the following edits please be made to maintain historical accuracy: Change wording to past tense, this dispute ended many months ago. Add section to reflect that the Dominion of West Canada, Greater Cascadian Republic, and Nexan Republic have since disbanded. Replace inaccurate map image with one that correctly displays territory in dispute. An accurate version can be found on the Dominion of Vancouver Island article. VanIsleDominion (talk) 21:26, 26 June 2022 (UTC)