Talk:Republic of Aedeland

Dubious

"Fearing war with Portugal, Róbert Guðfriðsson travelled to Rome in 1512 to seek the protection of Pope Julius II. By declaring Aedeland's allegiance to the Church, Róbert was able to secure a Papal Bull prohibiting colonization. Manuel I, the very religious King of Portugal, formally recognized Aedeland that same year." is why I proposed this article to be dubious.--AuxiliusvonImperium (talk) 17:14, 24 June 2014 (BST)

Fictional and dubious would be redundant, no? Aedeland (talk) 08:40, 27 June 2014 (BST)

It would not.--AuxiliusvonImperium (talk) 15:33, 27 June 2014 (BST)

You still seem to be under the impression that there's no difference between the history and statistics for your nation and that of other micronations. You act as if the templates are redundant because they should apply to all micronations. However, you are wrong. Most micronations are not works of fiction. When you look at the history section of most micronations, those events actually happened - they may be slightly exaggerated sometimes, but they are based on real events at least. Similarly, the population number is almost always real people - 99 times out of 100, those who claim to have more than 100 citizens are lying. That's why the fictional template does not apply to most nations. ADAMVS PRIMVS IMPERATOR (talk) 15:47, 27 June 2014 (BST)

You assume too much and beg the question. I am not claiming the templates are redundant because they apply to all micronations (although you make a good point). I understand that fictional micronations are exercises in fantasy, creative fiction or artistic expression while micronation simulations, preferred on this site, are social and political simulations. Both are technically fantasies but I accept the distinction. However, I am claiming that fictional and dubious are redundant when applied to this article. Please explain how an article can be dubious without being fictional or fictional without being dubious. Either, Aedeland is a fictional micronation and its claims are not dubious or Aedeland is a micronation simulation and its claims are dubious. Since I do not dispute that Aedeland is a obviously a fictional micronation, categorizing the article as dubious is inappropriate. Aedeland (talk) 18:21, 27 June 2014 (BST)

I'm sorry, I misinterpreted your point. Yes, I would suggest removing the dubious template, but not the fictional one. ADAMVS PRIMVS IMPERATOR (talk) 18:43, 27 June 2014 (BST)