Talk:Former McGrathic states

Deletion

@Cookieman1.1.1: Can you describe your argument for deletion on this talk page rather than an edit revision for the convince of other editors? Thanks. ★ ♥︎ Zed 。 ～ (talk | edits) 17:05, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

@KingdomOfBaustralia: Notifying page creator. ★ ♥︎ Zed 。 ～ (talk | edits) 21:02, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

• OPPOSE Editor has provided absolutely no reason for anyone to support deletion. The article honestly looks fine. As for "Baustralian bias", (which said editor claimed in his edit revision), the article is in-fact written from a Baustralian point of view as "Former McGrathic states" is a Baustralian term - this article is not in itself a history of McGrath's micronations. As he also mentions, claiming that each heading only gives short information when lengthly information is possible, I personally believe it only mentions what it should; most of the states were very similar, and most readers probably do not care about the specifics of each nation. ★ ♥︎ Zed 。 ～ (talk | edits) 22:47, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

July 2022 deletion proposal

• OPPOSE: Firstly, this article has already been undeleted after the editor's original marking of deletion. And, seeing as no major changes to the page have been made since its restoration, this user marking it for deletion repeatedly is not constructive and is beating a dead horse. Secondly, "bias" is not a reason for deletion—I have taken the liberty to add the {{biased}} tag. This article should simply be edited to be less bias; page deletion is a last resort. Thirdly, this article is in fact useful—before its creation, previous iterations of Quebec / Paloma had their own articles which were all virtually identical. This was created instead, with all identical articles transformed into redirects to this article while keeping some noteworthy history, such as their key differences. Fourthly @Cookieman1.1.1: how is it "unneeded"? Please elaborate on this. Happy editing, ★ ZabëlleNB ♥︎ (formerly Z Luna Skye) (talk | edits) 20:59, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

• Marked for deletion by this editor on 7 April 2021 (no consensus) and 20 December 2021 (admin deletion), but was later restored by another administrator. ★ ZabëlleNB ♥︎ (formerly Z Luna Skye) (talk | edits) 21:01, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

• SUPPORT: Claiming the deletion to be unconstructive is stupid, do you think I am truly that dense? Nothing on this article is noteworthy and majority of it is written catering to Baustralian views. It wouldn't make sense to make a article for "Former McKeen States", would it? This is in no way useful and it is not traditional when it comes to any wiki standards. the CSR has a page, and my proposal is to re-add the final Quebec page and set its page up similar to Yugoslavia's on Wikipedia (which lists all of its former governments, flags, names, etc.). As this page is mostly reflecting Quebec history it would make more sense, as for Sacree it is too niche to be even mentioned as it technically never even existed and was a concept for a few days. I feel that the deletion of this page and setting up a Quebec pages would be more effective then just essentially having this unconventional timeline with a under a term set up by a third party. --Cookieman1.1.1 (talk) 21:45, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

As a non-Baustralian reader, I fail to see how it caters to a "Baustralian view". Also, an article on former McKeen states would probably make sense actually, given how most of them are allegedly just sockpuppets of his. On the Quebec article, It would definitely make a lot more sense to create said article first before marking this one for deletion. Without seeing it, I cannot feel confident supporting this article's deletion. Lastly, if you want it deleted I would also recommend adding more information on Tawil and the Republic of Catholiques to the Catholique Socialist Republic article's history section, as that information is only listed here at the moment, thus making this a necessary article. ★ ZabëlleNB ♥︎ (formerly Z Luna Skye) (talk | edits) 22:16, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

"It had 5 states, one of which was a former Baustralian dominion..."The forming Prime Minister was Hankery Jenkinson, a Baustralian baron and Conservative Lord. He later resigned, and William Wilson, a Baustralian Duke and Gradonian King" "Baustralia considers it as the separate but successor state to the People's Federation of Quebec, and recognises the Commonwealth of Sacrée as a McGrathic state." Doesn't cater to the Baustralian view... intresting. I've started to make a Quebec article and plan on continuing with my proposal. -Cookieman1.1.1 (talk) 19:41, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Please ping me when the Quebec article is finished and you have made my recommended changes to the Catholique Socialist Republic. ★ ZabëlleNB ♥︎ (formerly Z Luna Skye) (talk | edits) 08:11, 17 July 2022 (UTC)