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==Text 1==
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Welcome to Rosetta! The object of the game is simple: using your decoding skills, figure out which of the 3 given sentence pairs is communicated in the provided text... which is written with a constructed language or invented script.
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No guessing! You must '''show your work''' to win. In your conclusion, explain how you decoded the text.
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== Text 2 ==
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<center>
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[[File:Rosetta2a.png|550px|border]]<br>
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[[File:Rosetta2b.png|600px|border]]
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</center>
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=== Alphabet ===
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Alphabet uses fewer than 50 characters. No alphabet chart needed.
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=== Lexicon ===
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{|
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|''d''||is
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|-
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|''k''||of
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|-
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|''s''||which
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|-
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|''t''||at, in, where
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|-
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|''v''||no, not, negative
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|-
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|''i''||you, your (singular)
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|-
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|''i'i''||you, your (plural)
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|-
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|''o''||it, him, her
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|''o'o''||them, theirs
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|''u''||me, I
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|''u'u''||we, our, us
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|''bo''||this
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|''boduqo''||placed, put down
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|''boviqi''||circle, circular
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|''dizo''||bring, deliver
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|''kubodu''||sky
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|''kutiki''||egg
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|''qiduki''||color
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|''qukiquki''||hula hoop
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|''subo''||blue
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|''sukoki''||box, package
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|''tikutiku''||always, forever
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|''tiqiti''||patio, porch
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|''tozosu''||assemble, gather
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|''zoqo''||father
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|}
  
 
===Options===
 
===Options===
====Option 1====
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====Pair 1====
Mary had a little lamb.
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*Which eggs are blue?
Theodore Roosevelt was the twenty-sixth president of the United States.
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*The color of the sky is not always blue.
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====Pair 2====
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*Deliver this package to my father.
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*I left your package on the porch.
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====Pair 3====
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*Everyone, get in a circle.
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*This hula hoop is circular.
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===Conclusion===
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*''Post your findings [[User:Solomon/Rosetta/Solutions|here]].''
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==Text 1 (solved by Volfym)==
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<center>[[File:Rosetta1a.png|500px|border]]<br>
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[[File:Rosetta1b.png|750px|border]]</center>
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===Alphabet===
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Alphabet uses fewer than 50 characters. No alphabet chart needed.
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===Lexicon===
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Vocabulary is English. No lexicon needed.
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===Options===
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====Pair 1====
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*Paris is in the opposite direction.
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*Northwest is my favorite direction.
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====Pair 2====
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*Your red bench is 2 meters long.
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*I want 20 feet of red fabric.
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====Pair 3====
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*My glass is half empty.
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*Nearly half of the world's population is male.
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===Conclusion===
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If you think you've figured out which sentence pair was written, write your conclusion here, describing how you translated the text.
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* ''Post your findings here.''
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'''Volfym's method'''.
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Pair 3 is my answer.
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I began by counting the words in each pair per line compared with the original. Pair 3 came out closest, so I was automatically biased towards it. (1a 5 words, 1b 7 words, compared to Pair 3 5 words, 8 words)
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I began writing out and comparing similarities in each pair (parallels in each line).  
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A 2 letter word is repeated in the Rosetta (67). Both Pair 1 and Pair 3 repeat "is" in the two lines. The abnormally long word in the second sentence "ended" with d rev ? d, and the only word to be found with a repeating letter separated by another letter at the fringe of a word was "population".
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I then worked out all the letters to see if it made any sense - beginning with < as l I began matching words according to the position of l and then figured also out that [ is f.  
  
====Option 2====
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The text deciphered to: flah ytpme si ym ssalg, elam si dlrow noitalupop fo ylraen flah.
I apologize for hacking into your computer.
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Turning each word backwards, you get: half empty is my glass, male is world population of nearly half.
My favorite pizza topping is sausage.
 
  
====Option 3====
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An odd way to phrase the pair, but it seems too likely to be disregarded. Reading it completely backwards from the last letter towards the first, brings a far more oddly phrased sentence.  
Please remain seated during the ride.
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That was fun, regardless.  
This crisis should be resolved politically.
 
  
===Challenge===
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--[[User:Volfym|Volfym]] ([[User talk:Volfym|talk]]) 16:32, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Nitrogen makes up most of the Earth's atmosphere.
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:We have a winner! Great job! This language is written from right to left, like Arabic and Hebrew. Modifiers come after the word they describe, so the texts would read "Glass my is empty half." and "Half nearly of population world is male." Not the most sophisticated or thought-out system, but I wanted to start with something somewhat easy. Glad someone got it pretty quickly. [[User:Solomon|Solomon]] ([[User talk:Solomon|talk]])

Latest revision as of 20:46, 9 March 2014


Welcome to Rosetta! The object of the game is simple: using your decoding skills, figure out which of the 3 given sentence pairs is communicated in the provided text... which is written with a constructed language or invented script.

No guessing! You must show your work to win. In your conclusion, explain how you decoded the text.

Text 2

Rosetta2a.png
Rosetta2b.png

Alphabet

Alphabet uses fewer than 50 characters. No alphabet chart needed.

Lexicon

d is
k of
s which
t at, in, where
v no, not, negative
i you, your (singular)
i'i you, your (plural)
o it, him, her
o'o them, theirs
u me, I
u'u we, our, us
bo this
boduqo placed, put down
boviqi circle, circular
dizo bring, deliver
kubodu sky
kutiki egg
qiduki color
qukiquki hula hoop
subo blue
sukoki box, package
tikutiku always, forever
tiqiti patio, porch
tozosu assemble, gather
zoqo father

Options

Pair 1

  • Which eggs are blue?
  • The color of the sky is not always blue.

Pair 2

  • Deliver this package to my father.
  • I left your package on the porch.

Pair 3

  • Everyone, get in a circle.
  • This hula hoop is circular.

Conclusion

  • Post your findings here.

Text 1 (solved by Volfym)

Rosetta1a.png
Rosetta1b.png

Alphabet

Alphabet uses fewer than 50 characters. No alphabet chart needed.

Lexicon

Vocabulary is English. No lexicon needed.

Options

Pair 1

  • Paris is in the opposite direction.
  • Northwest is my favorite direction.

Pair 2

  • Your red bench is 2 meters long.
  • I want 20 feet of red fabric.

Pair 3

  • My glass is half empty.
  • Nearly half of the world's population is male.

Conclusion

If you think you've figured out which sentence pair was written, write your conclusion here, describing how you translated the text.

  • Post your findings here.

Volfym's method.

Pair 3 is my answer.

I began by counting the words in each pair per line compared with the original. Pair 3 came out closest, so I was automatically biased towards it. (1a 5 words, 1b 7 words, compared to Pair 3 5 words, 8 words)

I began writing out and comparing similarities in each pair (parallels in each line).

A 2 letter word is repeated in the Rosetta (67). Both Pair 1 and Pair 3 repeat "is" in the two lines. The abnormally long word in the second sentence "ended" with d rev ? d, and the only word to be found with a repeating letter separated by another letter at the fringe of a word was "population".

I then worked out all the letters to see if it made any sense - beginning with < as l I began matching words according to the position of l and then figured also out that [ is f.

The text deciphered to: flah ytpme si ym ssalg, elam si dlrow noitalupop fo ylraen flah. Turning each word backwards, you get: half empty is my glass, male is world population of nearly half.

An odd way to phrase the pair, but it seems too likely to be disregarded. Reading it completely backwards from the last letter towards the first, brings a far more oddly phrased sentence. That was fun, regardless.

--Volfym (talk) 16:32, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

We have a winner! Great job! This language is written from right to left, like Arabic and Hebrew. Modifiers come after the word they describe, so the texts would read "Glass my is empty half." and "Half nearly of population world is male." Not the most sophisticated or thought-out system, but I wanted to start with something somewhat easy. Glad someone got it pretty quickly. Solomon (talk)