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The '''Principality of Quapong''' is a tongue-in-cheek micronation that was founded in 2018 by [[Shady Morsi]] (Joseph I) as an "alternative nation". The location is still unknown, after the official proclamation of the Quapongian Principality. Joseph was enthroned as Prince Joseph of Quapong Enthusiastic attempts to forge official ties with other countries have so far proved disappointing and the Principality of Quapong enjoys no formal diplomatic recognition. In 2024 the nation was ressurected from inactivity. Lead by the Prince of Quapong the government of Quapong also announced its wish to attend [[MicroCon 2024|the next MicroCon]]<br />
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==Etymology==<br />
The name Quapong comes from '''Qua''' as in quadruple. and '''Pong'''. Before the independence decleration its was a table tennis site and 4 players could play at this game of tabletennis. also known as Ping '''Pong'''<br />
==History== <br />
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==Government== <br />
[[File:PrinceofQuapong.jpg|thumb|Prince Joseph of Quapong]]<br />
===Foreign Relations===<br />
[[File:QuapongDeskFlag.png|thumb|A flag of Quapong at the [[Quapongnese embassy of the Netherlands]]]]<br />
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==Etymology==<br />
The name Quapong comes from '''Qua''' as in quadruple. and '''Pong'''. Before the independence decleration its was a table tennis site and 4 players could play at this game of tabletennis. also known as Ping '''Pong'''<br />
==History== <br />
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==Government== <br />
[[File:PrinceofQuapong.jpg|thumb|Prince Joseph of Quapong]]<br />
===Foreign Relations===<br />
[[File:QuapongDeskFlag.png|thumb|A flag of Quapong at the [[Quapongnese embassy of the Netherlands]]]]<br />
==Geography==<br />
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==Etymology==<br />
The name Quapong comes from '''Qua''' as in quadruple. and '''Pong'''. Before the independence decleration its was a table tennis site and 4 players could play at this game of tabletennis. also known as Ping '''Pong'''<br />
==History== <br />
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==Government== <br />
[[File:PrinceofQuapong.jpg|thumb|Prince Joseph of Quapong]]<br />
===Foreign Relations===<br />
[[File:QuapongDeskFlag.png|thumb|A flag of Quapong at the [[Quapongnese embassy of the Netherlands]]]]<br />
==Geography==<br />
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'''Shady Morsi''' is a Dutch entepeneur, perennial candidate, and journalist, who has participated and held office in numerous micronations including Viadalvia, Hoogwaard, Campinia, Konraq, Kökqoyunlu and Hasanistan. Morsi identifies as a centre-left economic but right wing social views... Morsi was born and raised in Zoetermeer, Netherlands and attended MBO Rijnland before forming his own company. SonPa Tech Trade,<br />
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==Early life==<br />
Morsi was born on Febuary 9, 1999, at Het LangeLand Ziekenhuis Zoetermeer, and named Shady-Yusuf Hosam El-Deen Mohammed Habdamina Morsi He was the son of Hosam Morsi. (1962–), and Azza Dakhil (1963-).His parents had been married on 29 January 1995, Morsi began his formal education at the Keerkering in Zoetermeer at age 5 Beginning in 2005, he attended the Leo Kannerschool SO in Oegstgesst, Soon he comes to Hazenboslaan School where he held a number of leadership positions including secretary of the student council, a member of the editorial board of the school newspaper, and captain of the soccer team, At age 9 he had a interest in everything including religions, capital cities, countries, and cultures making him more inteligent than his contemporaries. He had to ride a school bus for an hour each way during his freshman year and he received excellent grades. He played soccer, basketball and hockey and various other sports,<br />
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==Micronationalism==<br />
===Shadyvinkenstein===<br />
[[File:Foto-Unity.jpg|thumb|left|alt=Crown Prince Jonathan|The location of Shadyvinkenstein. Morsis first nation|200px]] Shady discoverd micronationalism after reading about [[Sealand]] and [[Molossia]] In 2010. Shady Morsi and Stein Dros discoverd an abandoned bulding near his school He and Dros decided to proclaim the Republic of Shadystein. Soon the republic was transformed as a monarchy and renamed as Shady was proclaimed King after an election and Timo Vink was proclaimed as Prime Minister<br />
In febuary 2010 Shady Morsi formed the Shadyvinkensteini Border Guard and tries to capture Dutch civilians who illegally crossed the Shadyvinkensteini border. As the Border Guard captured a Dutch civilian, Soon the civilian called the Dutch authorities and escaped. Soon a Dutch Volunteer Army crossed the border and removed Shady Morsi from border. Shady Morsi condemned the invasion and said that "The invasion was a violation of Shadyvinkensteini sovereignty" soon he setteld a Government in Exile and starting claiming the land<br />
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===Hoogwaard===<br />
As soon Morsi (then known as '''Shady Restapato''') founded the [[Republic of Hoogwaard]] it was known as a liberal dictatorship Hoogwaard had its roots in the Eurozone crisis. The Patriotic Front, proclaimed the inderpendence of Hoogwaard led by Shady Restapato, The republic was declared within its capital Hengelveld,The nation joined the now-defunct Micronational Union and became member of the Federated Coalition of Nations,It had its own court, police, prison, currency (Hoogwaardian Gulder), and an army of 5 men.Despite this sucesses the republic colided durring the Hoogwaardian Civil War and a lack of reputation<br />
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After Hoogwaard was isolated. The government was unpopular and Hoogwaard became a monarchy for 31 minutes with King Andrew I, However later deposed in a coup He left and Hoogwaard become a democratic republic However on 31 May,The Socialisr Peoples Army is founded and tried to attack the proconsul but failed. On May 14 A civil war begon Jordy Sloos start a revolt and try to conquer the capital of Hoogwaard but failed and a long range civil War started, On 23 May, Hoogwaard vandalized [[Montania]]n and Molarussian pages, Montania dont respond but Molarus declared war, That marked the begin of the Hoogwaardian-Molarussian War However, 5 days later a peace treaty On 7 July The civil war was ended. The republicans won but Morsi decided to dissolve Hoogwaard<br />
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===Viadalvia===<br />
On the 21st of July, Salaria was destroyed by Rebels. Due to the fact that Salaria failed, the new government created the Republic of Viadalvia.Shady Morsi was elected as [[President of Viadalvia]]. But On 27 July. The military tookover Viadalvia and declared the Government of National Salvation commonly known as the 'Summer vacation regime',However On 3 September Shady retook over the state was changed the name from the Republic of Viadalvia to the Federal Republic of Viadalvia. For the first two months of the state, Viadalvia changed the capital from Alenkandar to Voltak. Additionally, the Viadalvian Council founded the Military, the Treasury, and designed many of Viadalvian symbols. On 4 September Viadalvia had war with [[Klausburg]] but Klausburg surrenders to Viadalvia<br />
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However Morsi seems to be instable as The Viadalvian Civil War was fought from 21 September to 22 December 2013 between the Federalists, who were loyal to President Morsi and the Federal Republic of Viadalvia, The Nationalists, a fascist rebel group led by General Dave Visser, and the [[Provisional Peoples Government (Viadalvia)|Socialists]] with lead by Tim van Leeuwen. The war began after a new constitution by the government to form Viadalvia intro a Federation. The Nationalists and the Socialists declared independenc The Federalists was supported by parts of Pathalla South Alenkandar and Hasanistan. However, rebelling units in important cities—such as Voltak, Lajos Timograd, and Hengelveld, The Socialists surrendered on 22 December. However the Viadalvian government fights against Nationalist Holdouts until 4 January.<br />
After the Viadalvian Civil war, Viadalvia declared neutrality and The Viadalvian golden age was begun. Viadalvia become less militarist and Viadalvia build their civil affairs. Viadalvia was also more serious, and the government abolished conscription. The Second elections were held, and Shady Morsi won with 88% of the votes. Soon a new conflict, the Viadalvian-Pan Iryllian conflict, arose between Tarlov, Viadalvia, and a separatist movement called Pan-Iryillia. Due the fact Viadalvia and Tarlov are allies, Viadalvia declared war on Pan-Iryillia. When Viadalvia withdrew from the war, Pan-Iryllia won, After 2 months another conflict escalated to war, known as the [[Oegstgeest War]]. Viadalvia won and made Arnham into a puppet state. In 2014, Morsi resigned due depression and Timo Vink was elected as president<br />
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===Brandholm===<br />
Around 2015, Brändholm ( a nation who was founded in 2009) was re-established and a socialist government was instaled transformed into the Socialist People's Democratic Republic of Brändholm. with was established by Sam Bakker Shady Morsi and Wessel de Wekker during this era, having a marxist-leninist ideology However more people joined the Republic and demanded democratisation to avoid a civil war<br />
Sam started The Democratisation of Brändholm making Brändholm a Direct Parliamentary Democracy and Shady was elected as president On 24 January the Government of Brändholm decided to annex the remnants of Serdesia a former micronation with has been transformed into an extraterritorial enclave, On 29 January The republic started to claim Yttre Julholmskläppen In the last time of the republic. Various disputes and disagreements within the government and parties with separate from other party. Also due a lack of some citizens the republic collapsed Julholm declared independence from Brandholm the remnants of the republic formed the State of Brändholm considers of Brandholm island however on the 9th of March. The Republic of Julholm proclaimed the merger with Brandholm On 2015 the government returned to the old system, The confederacy is aboslished as on 2 june Brandholm started the Kunnia War After the war the YOG dispute begon and the Prince returned to the country. constitutional referendumwas held in Brandholm on 26 June 2015 a key event of Brandholmerhistoryruled by various presidents Soon with 76% of the votes the monarchy is re established The Republic of Brandholm was re-declared on 11 June 2016 as an independent state as result of the 2016 Brandholmer Independence Referendum.<br />
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===Campinia===<br />
[[File:Morsi Adresses the Campinian People.PNG|200px|thumb|left|Morsi Adresses the Campinian People.]]<br />
[[File:Shadystatepotrait.png|200px|thumb|right|Alternate Portrait of Morsi by The Baron of Tradthar-i-falur]]<br />
Shady Morsi became citizen of Campinia and proclaimed himself Duke as a misunderstanding. Elias offered Morsi the position of head of government; the latter mistakenly interpreted this as an abdication, which he then publicised. Elias I reigns as Duke, with Shady Morsi as Grand Constable of Campinia, Morsi was officaly inaugurated as Grand Constable on September 11, 2016, sworn in by Elias, Morsi presided over a period of economic and national prosperity. Months into his first term, he signed the Campinian Civil Code, which formed the civil code, On Christmas eve 2016, Morsi was raised to the rank of Graaf (Count). He was also promoted to the rank of General, and He also continued to serve as Campinia's foreign minister. Because of the non-involvment of the monarchy he held, Morsi has near complete control over domestic and foreign policy. <br />
===Wallenia===<br />
Morsi was proclaimed as King of the Vroopans by Jan Kees Hendrik I, Morsi was inaugurated (Vroopans kings where never crowned) on 10 March 2017, Under his regin Vroopa joined the MVFF altough Vroopa never played a match against another micronation. The title was seen more as an honary title and not as a title of a nation. Vroopa was seen more as a tribe than an independent sovereign nation <br />
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Morsi attempted to reform the nation was in the begining halted by conservative elements lead by Kees Hendrik I, most of it was blocked.. in this time Wallenian monarchs neer use their macronational name as a nation and since Shady's original birth name was Yusuf he angelised his regin name to Joseph<br />
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Under Wallenias founding document, the King is the head of state with full executive authority, including emergency powers .Moreover, according to Wallenian citizens Joseph has "a strong personality" that allowed him to "rule with a conscience" Since his accession to power, he shared his power with Jasper Bosman who becomes the [[Grand Governor of Wallenia|Grand Governor of Vroopa]] the government A new reform of the Wallenian administration was launched towards increased efficiency and discipline. plus to give citizens more of a voice in the Kingdom This is a significant change in the direction of appointments, given that Bosman critized the Wallene absolute monarchy the previous administrations the grand governor, traditionally a an ally of the king, tended to double as foreign minister.<br />
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Vroopa hit a peak low in 2018 when Vroopa's government cased to function since most of the members either resigned or left micronationalism all toghether<br />
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However on 19 December 2019, Joseph, King of the Vroopans maintains that the government wasn't dissolved. This claim comes from the fact that neither the King or the Ciitzens council had dissolved the government. Morsi decided to use their power to state that the government hadn't been dissolved and that it is being revived. Later on 2019 the king called a new Citizens Council in order to aid with revival. It is currently undergoing a process of "resuming government activities," or trying to revive the original kingdom. The nation was renamed into Wallenia to restore the macronational name of the island (De Wallen)<br />
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A second revivial was due to the COVID-19 pandemic when Joseph once declared that the nation will be re-restored to not abandon Vroopan/Drosmanian/Wallene history, Soon he met with the former monarchs of Vroopa on zoom proclaming the reawakining of Wallenia,<br />
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==Honours, Awards and Titles==<br />
'''Wallenian honours:'''<br />
*[[File:Flag of Wallenia.png|25px]] [[Order of the Orange Triangle|Sovereign of the Order of the Orange Triangle]]<br />
*[[File:Flag of Wallenia.png|25px]] [[Cross of Vroopa|Sovereign of the Cross of Vroopa]]<br />
*[[File:Flag of Wallenia.png|25px]] [[Island Medal|Sovereign of the Island Medal]]<br />
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'''Campinian honours:'''<br />
*{{flagicon image|Vlagcampinia.jpg}} [[Campinia|Knight Grand Cross in the Order van Campinia]]<br />
*{{flagicon image|Vlagcampinia.jpg}} Count of Campinia<br />
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'''Foreign honours:'''<br />
*[[File:Flag Of The Viadalvian Republic.png|25px]] [[Viadalvia|Cross of Viadalvia]]<br />
*[[File:Dolmanian flag.png|25px]] [[The United Republic of Dolmenia|Lion of Dolmenia]]<br />
*{{flagicon|Mahuset}} [[Confederation of Mahuset|King's Day List of Honour]]<br />
*[[File:Flagbreckfinal.png|25px]] Honorary Praetor of the First Breckland Empire.<br />
*[[File:Flagbreckfinal.png|25px]] Honor Crown of Breckland<br />
*[[File:Flag of East Caicos.png|25px]] Hero of the Republic<br />
*{{flagicon|Hasanistan}} [[Hasanistan|National Hero of Hasanistan]]<br />
*{{flagicon|Pavlov}} [[Orders, decorations, and medals of Pavlov|Order of Caesar Simeon Bekbulatovich]]<br />
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==Non micronational life==<br />
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===Entrepreneurship===<br />
===Macronational political activity===<br />
[[File:28783378 1649388451822426 1881417961680404480 n.jpg|150px|thumb|The DDN slate in 2018.. Morsi was the 6th candidate]]<br />
Morsi along with [[w:John Charlton Rudge|John Charlton Rudge]] are one of the few micronationalists that also held office in their respective macronations He is politically active in his macronation, seeing public service as "the ultimate service to his nation" his first political campaign was back in 2014 when Shady Morsi was urged by a group of friends to enter the race as a candidate. Although he was ineligible (he was 15 years old at the time. Was not on the ballot and didnt live in Oegstgeest) he actively campaigned. with support of Najim Oumejjoud who becomes his campaign manager Morsi's slogan was "Are you fucking tired of politicians write in Shady Morsi" The goal of the campaign was to make many votes invalid as possible and to eventually elect Morsi as a candidate Morsi campaigned on the abolishment of capitalism, and to improve public transit. Despite that Morsi finished 8th with 90 votes but was declared invalid due the Dutch system not recognizing write in votes. Only 27 votes separated Morsi from the ballot registered libertarian Lukas Tjeima<br />
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He was an active member of GeenPeil and campaigned for GeenPeil during the Dutch general elections, 2017 <br />
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In 2018 Morsi was a candidate for the small Direct Democracy Netherlands in Zoetermeer, a party that wanted to have more direct democracy and more citizen involvement, Morsi was placed 6th and last and acted as a [[w:Lijstduwer|lijstduwer]] Morsi accepted the position due to his college deadlines but campaigned nevertheless. Morsi acted also as the campaigns offical photographer. the list finished second last in the election with 278 votes with Morsi getting 13 preference votes beating Bert Gerritse who had 9 in the end Morsi expected to get 57-60 votes from friends <br />
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Morsi conceded the election on behalf of his party<br />
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After the election. Morsi left DDN and joined the Labour party In September 2018, Morsi ran for the local party leadership and was confirmed as an official leadership contestant for the Labour Party in Zoetermeer where he finished third. His platform was more left than the other candidates<br />
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Morsi moved to Schiedam to live under supervision in 2019-2020 and joined the Christian Union. Morsi reasoning for the party switch was because the "party is progressive on issues i find inportant but also conservative on medical-ethical questions" Morsi was appointed duo-councilor, meaning that he could not vote but could participate in committee meetings. Morsis portfolios are COVID-19, IT, Healthcare, Education and Saftey <br />
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Morsi worked hard to build up the center of the party on social issues. Unlike other members, Morsi a fervent conservative, in his maiden speech Morsi said that "We are here for the people of Schiedam and we are elected to serve them" He developed a right wing position on city government and critizised the municipal executive for not having a COVID exit strategy. Morsi has called for more aid to help the Maasland Ziekenhuis including funding and programs around reproductive healthcare,<br />
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==External links==<br />
[[Category:People]]<br />
[[Category:Heads of government]]<br />
[[Category:Muslim people]]<br />
[[Category:Politicians]]<br />
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
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|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
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|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
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|amends =Counter Motion <SMALL> (withdrawn before consideration </small> <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
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|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a [[w:parliamentary motion|motion]] proposed in the General Meeting of [[w:PerspectieF|PerspectieF]]. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by [[Shady Morsi]], a former [[w:Gemeenteraad#Duoraadslid|Duo-Councilor]] in [[w:Schiedam|Schiedam]], who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating [[w:Period poverty|period poverty]] and a condemnation of [[w:Jobbik|Jobbik]] joining the [[w:ECPM|ECPM]] <br />
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As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
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Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank, Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, and despite him being the frontrunner he withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
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Morsi was before his involvement within PerspectieF member of [[w:DWARS|DWARS]], the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
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The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting <br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
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===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as the youth organization of the<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
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The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
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==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th in Gouda at the Chocholade Factory a former chocolade factory turned conferance room. The annual kickoff serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were [[w:Anja Haga|Anja Haga]], Member of the European Parliament ; [[w:Mirjam Bikker|Mirjam Bikker]], the party leader; [[w:Pieter Grinwis|Pieter Grinwis]], and [[w:Nico Drost|Nico Drost]] ' both MP's, [[w:Carla Dik-Faber|Carla Dik-Faber]], Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman. The kick-off offered their participants workshops in campaining, a session about the European Parliament, a discussion about Direct action and in public speeking <br />
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The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted due to this particular motion. <br />
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This motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF, is known for its serious and professional demeanor, historically maintained a reputation for a lack of emphasis on satire within its activities. This characterization stemmed from its identity as a confessional-oriented group, highlighting its serious approach to political engagement. Unlike its more left-leaning counterpart, DWARS, PerspectieF was seen as a bastion of gravity and formality,(such as members wearing suits and ties at every meeting) attracting members with a keen focus on professional political discourse rather than the utilization of satire. The organization's ethos primarily drew a demographic more aligned with serious political ideologies rather than the satirical and student like humor dominated ambiance that characterized DWARS. This distinction delineated PerspectieF as a contrasting hub for politically minded individuals seeking a more orthodox and somber approach to youth engagement within the political landscape. <br />
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The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic and that Amstel's "inferior quality didnt fit in the goals of PerspectieF" In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
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A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. And a lot of questions where asked. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 25 against the ban and 6 in favor with 5 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted".This discussion also unintendedly arranged to adjourn at 20:30 local time. However, owing to extensive discussions and unforeseen deliberations, the meeting continued beyond the scheduled time, concluding at 21:15.<br />
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==Votes==<br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding of the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
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Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
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Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. A member even send a letter personally thanking Morsi for the "for the energetic General Meeting, it was legendary" Morsi advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
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The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[w:Krokettenmotie|Krokettenmotie]] - a motion proposed in the municipal council of Amstelveen on 25 November 1993 by future Prime Minister of the Netherlands Jan Peter Balkenende, The motion called for the right of members of the municipal council to a croquette if a council meeting lasts until after 23:00. It was meant as a joke, but because the other parties agreed, the motion was adopted and is still in force<br />
*[[w:Polish Beer-Lovers' Party|Polish Beer-Lovers' Party]]</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1730527User:Kolkaria/sandbox42024-02-03T13:53:22Z<p>Kolkaria: </p>
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|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
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|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
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|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a [[w:parliamentary motion|motion]] proposed in the General Meeting of [[w:PerspectieF|PerspectieF]]. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by [[Shady Morsi]], a former [[w:Gemeenteraad#Duoraadslid|Duo-Councilor]] in [[w:Schiedam|Schiedam]], who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating [[w:Period poverty|period poverty]] and a condemnation of [[w:Jobbik|Jobbik]] joining the [[w:ECPM|ECPM]] <br />
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As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
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Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank, Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, and despite him being the frontrunner he withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
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Morsi was before his involvement within PerspectieF member of [[w:DWARS|DWARS]], the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
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The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting <br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
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===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as the youth organization of the<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
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The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
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==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th in Gouda at the Chocholade Factory a former chocolade factory turned conferance room. The annual kickoff serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were [[w:Anja Haga|Anja Haga]], Member of the European Parliament ; [[w:Mirjam Bikker|Mirjam Bikker]], the party leader; [[w:Pieter Grinwis|Pieter Grinwis]], and [[w:Nico Drost|Nico Drost]] ' both MP's, [[w:Carla Dik-Faber|Carla Dik-Faber]], Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman. The kick-off offered their participants workshops in campaining, a session about the European Parliament, a discussion about Direct action and in public speeking <br />
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The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted due to this particular motion. <br />
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This motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF, is known for its serious and professional demeanor, historically maintained a reputation for a lack of emphasis on satire within its activities. This characterization stemmed from its identity as a confessional-oriented group, highlighting its serious approach to political engagement. Unlike its more left-leaning counterpart, DWARS, PerspectieF was seen as a bastion of gravity and formality,(such as members wearing suits and ties at every meeting) attracting members with a keen focus on professional political discourse rather than the utilization of satire. The organization's ethos primarily drew a demographic more aligned with serious political ideologies rather than the satirical and student like humor dominated ambiance that characterized DWARS. This distinction delineated PerspectieF as a contrasting hub for politically minded individuals seeking a more orthodox and somber approach to youth engagement within the political landscape. <br />
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The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic and that Amstel's "inferior quality didnt fit in the goals of PerspectieF" In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
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A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. And a lot of questions where asked. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 25 against the ban and 6 in favor with 5 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted".This discussion also unintendedly arranged to adjourn at 20:30 local time. However, owing to extensive discussions and unforeseen deliberations, the meeting continued beyond the scheduled time, concluding at 21:15.<br />
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==Votes==<br />
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| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] presented, read and defended by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority: 25/45}}</div><br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding of the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
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Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
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Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. A member even send a letter personally thanking Morsi for the "for the energetic General Meeting, it was legendary" Morsi advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
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The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[w:Krokettenmotie|Krokettenmotie]] - a motion proposed in the municipal council of Amstelveen on 25 November 1993 by future Prime Minister of the Netherlands Jan Peter Balkenende, The motion called for the right of members of the municipal council to a croquette if a council meeting lasts until after 23:00. It was meant as a joke, but because the other parties agreed, the motion was adopted and is still in force<br />
*[[w:Polish Beer-Lovers' Party|Polish Beer-Lovers' Party]]</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=File:Flag_of_Yezd.png&diff=1699830File:Flag of Yezd.png2023-12-21T14:15:01Z<p>Kolkaria: </p>
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<div></div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=Union_Against_Micronational_War&diff=1699829Union Against Micronational War2023-12-21T14:13:07Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Current members */</p>
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The '''Union Against Micronational War''', frequently referred to as the '''UAMW''' was founded on 10 July 2009 by [[Niels of Flandrensis]] as a result of many micronational wars on MicroWiki and the micronational community. The goal of the UAMW is neutrality in any micronational conflict. On 16 January 2011, Niels of Flandrensis asked all members states to sign the [http://commons.microwiki.org.uk/index.php?title=Treaty_of_Universal_Peace_2011 Treaty of Universal Peace], which condemns recourse to war as an instrument of national policy. The UAMW has been widely praised for its promotion of peace, twice being nominated for the [[Schneider Awards|Schneider Award]] in that category.<br />
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==Structure==<br />
Unlike most organizations such as the [[GUM]], the UAMW does not have a centralized organization or leadership. Instead, it is a symbolic union, with each member taking responsibility for their own policies and actions. The most influence over the union is held by its founder, but it has been made known by Grand Duke Niels that any member may promote peace in the name of the organisation. <br />
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==Views on micronational war==<br />
The UAMW defines micronational war as a hostile conflict between two micronational entities. Such conflict is viewed as sometimes more accurately described as a conflict between individual micronational leaders. Such conflicts are condemned, especially when the actions of the belligerents are destructive, unethical, or illegal. Recwarring, a form of roleplaying, is distinguished by the union from microwar, and is not spoken against. Founder Niels of Flandrensis says of real conflicts that "playing war has nothing to do with the true micronational spirit." This concept is the basis of the UAMW, which holds that promoting intermicronational conflict achieves nothing and prevents others from enjoying micronationalism. War is seen as the failure of diplomacy, and accepting a foreign declaration of war is opposed.<br />
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The Union Against Micronational War maintains the official position that the easiest defense against micronational war is to ignore a hostile party. This is especially encouraged when the instigator is distant from the nation that is threatened. For any illegal acts that are in fact committed by a belligerent party, the union recommends that macronational authorities be contacted.<br />
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==Membership==<br />
The only requirement for members of the UAMW is to promise to not declare war against another micronation. Micronations are free to add their nation to the list without any obligation. Members who do declare war on another micronation will be removed from the list. <br />
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===Current members===<br />
This is a list (in alphabetical order) of the nations who are currently the members of the UAMW.<br />
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*{{flagicon|Kingdom of Alorya}} Alorya<br />
*{{flagicon image|Flag (93).png}} [[Second American Empire]]<br />
*{{flag|Arcadia}}<br />
*{{flagicon image|First_Ardenturian_Flag.png}} [[Republic of Ardenturia|Ardenturia]]<br />
*{{flagicon image|Flag-of-confederate-union-of-armisenia-marimba-and-glicerio.png}} [[Confederated Union of Armisenia, Marimba and Glicerio|Armisenia, Marimba and Glicerio]]<br />
*{{flagicon image|Asset 2.png}} [[Empire of Arvesia|Arvesia]]<br />
*{{flag|Aswington}}<br />
*{{flag|Atiera}}<br />
*{{flag|Atlia}}<br />
*{{flag|Atovia}}<br />
*{{flag|Austenasia}}<br />
*{{flag|Australis}}<br />
*{{flagicon image|AustrovianFlag.png}} [[Austrovia]]<br />
*{{flag|Princedom of Aysellant|name=Aysellant}}<br />
*{{flagicon image|BailliumFlag.png}} [[Baillium Empire|Baillium]]<br />
*{{flagicon image|Dogma.jpg}} [[Royal State of Bagradoria|Bagradoria]]<br />
*{{flag|Bartonia}}<br />
*{{flag|Bradonia}}<br />
*{{flag|Cascadia}}<br />
*{{flagicon image|}}{{flagicon image|Charlynesia.jpg}} [[Empire of Charlynesia|Charlynesia]]<br />
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*{{flag|Corollia}}<br />
*{{flag|Republic of Covanellis|name=Covanellis}}<br />
*{{flag|Dadizele}}<br />
*{{flagicon image|Danterlund national flag.png}} Danterlund<br />
*{{flag|Desert District}}<br />
*{{flagicon image|Flag of Danland.jpg}} [[Empire of Danland]]<br />
*{{flag|Duckionary}}<br />
*{{flag|Federated States of East Indian Ocean}}<br />
*{{flag|Efransa}}<br />
*{{flagicon image|Flag3b test2.jpg}} Elohem<br />
*{{flagicon image|FlagOfEscevia.png}} [[Escevia]]<br />
*{{flag|Falcar}}<br />
*{{flagicon image|Felsbruck Ecologist Flag .jpg}} [[Felsbruck]]<br />
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*{{flag|Friuli}}<br />
*{{flag|Florian Republic}}<br />
*{{Flag|Forestia}}<br />
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*{{flag|Georgienstine}}<br />
*{{flag|United Gerenian Republic|name=Gerenia}}<br />
*{{flagicon image|GDScheinHafen.png}} [[Grand Duchy of Scheinhafen|Scheinhafen]]<br />
*{{flag|Hak'hanna}}<br />
*{{flag|Kingdom of Ferelend}} [[Kingdom of Ferelend]]<br />
*{{flag|Kingdom of Harleck|name=Harleck}}<br />
*{{flagicon image|HKIslandFlag1.png}} [[Commonwealth of Hong Kong]]<br />
*{{flagicon image|Hugoland Flag.png}} [[Hugoland]]<br />
*{{flag|Ikonia}}<br />
*{{flagicon image|Kwazulu-Natal.png}} [[Republic of IKwaZulu-Natali|IKwaZulu-Natali]]<br />
*{{flagicon|Iustus}} Iustus<br />
*{{flagicon image|Xxxx.png}} Jadoraria<br />
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*{{flag|Jutar}}<br />
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*{{flag|Republic of Latitudia|name=Latitudia}}<br />
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*{{flag|Leppa}}<br />
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*{{flagicon image|Loganville_Flag.png}} [[Transcontinental Republic of Loganville|Loganville]]<br />
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*{{flagicon image|Luxe.jpg}} [[Repubblica democratica di Luxe|Luxe]]<br />
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|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
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|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
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|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
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|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
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|amends =Counter Motion <SMALL> (withdrawn before consideration </small> <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a [[w:parliamentary motion|motion]] proposed in the General Meeting of [[w:PerspectieF|PerspectieF]]. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by [[Shady Morsi]], a former [[w:Gemeenteraad#Duoraadslid|Duo-Councilor]] in [[w:Schiedam|Schiedam]], who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating [[w:Period poverty|period poverty]] and a condemnation of [[w:Jobbik|Jobbik]] joining the [[w:ECPM|ECPM]] <br />
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As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
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Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank, Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, and despite him being the frontrunner he withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
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Morsi was before his involvement within PerspectieF member of [[w:DWARS|DWARS]], the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
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The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting <br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
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===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as the youth organization of the<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
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The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
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==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th in Gouda at the Chocholade Factory a former chocolade factory turned conferance room. The annual kickoff serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were [[w:Anja Haga|Anja Haga]], Member of the European Parliament ; [[w:Mirjam Bikker|Mirjam Bikker]], the party leader; [[w:Pieter Grinwis|Pieter Grinwis]], and [[w:Nico Drost|Nico Drost]] ' both MP's, [[w:Carla Dik-Faber|Carla Dik-Faber]], Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman. The kick-off offered their participants workshops in campaining, a session about the European Parliament, a discussion about Direct action and in public speeking <br />
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The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted due to this particular motion. <br />
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This motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF, is known for its serious and professional demeanor, historically maintained a reputation for a lack of emphasis on satire within its activities. This characterization stemmed from its identity as a confessional-oriented group, highlighting its serious approach to political engagement. Unlike its more left-leaning counterpart, DWARS, PerspectieF was seen as a bastion of gravity and formality,(such as members wearing suits and ties at every meeting) attracting members with a keen focus on professional political discourse rather than the utilization of satire. The organization's ethos primarily drew a demographic more aligned with serious political ideologies rather than the satirical and student like humor dominated ambiance that characterized DWARS. This distinction delineated PerspectieF as a contrasting hub for politically minded individuals seeking a more orthodox and somber approach to youth engagement within the political landscape. <br />
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The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic and that Amstel's "inferior quality didnt fit in the goals of PerspectieF" In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
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A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. And a lot of questions where asked. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted".This discussion also unintendedly arranged to adjourn at 20:30 local time. However, owing to extensive discussions and unforeseen deliberations, the meeting continued beyond the scheduled time, concluding at 21:15.<br />
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==Votes==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
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| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] presented, read and defended by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority: 25/45}}</div><br />
|- bgcolor="#D8D8D8"<br />
| width=80px | '''Vote'''<br />
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| {{tick}} In Favor || {{Composition bar|10|45|hex=green}}<br />
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| {{cross}} '''Against'''|| {{Composition bar|31|45|hex=red}}<br />
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| Abstentions || {{Composition bar|4|45|hex=gray}}<br />
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| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
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|}<br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding of the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
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Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
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Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. A member even send a letter personally thanking Morsi for the "for the energetic General Meeting, it was legendary" Morsi advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
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The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[w:Krokettenmotie|Krokettenmotie]] - a motion proposed in the municipal council of Amstelveen on 25 November 1993 by future Prime Minister of the Netherlands Jan Peter Balkenende, The motion called for the right of members of the municipal council to a croquette if a council meeting lasts until after 23:00. It was meant as a joke, but because the other parties agreed, the motion was adopted and is still in force<br />
*[[w:Polish Beer-Lovers' Party|Polish Beer-Lovers' Party]]</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1665274User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-29T14:59:45Z<p>Kolkaria: </p>
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
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|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <SMALL> (withdrawn before consideration </small> <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a [[w:parliamentary motion|motion]] proposed in the General Meeting of [[w:PerspectieF|PerspectieF]]. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by [[Shady Morsi]], a former [[w:Gemeenteraad#Duoraadslid|Duo-Councilor]] in [[w:Schiedam|Schiedam]], who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating [[w:Period poverty|period poverty]] and a condemnation of [[w:Jobbik|Jobbik]] joining the [[w:ECPM|ECPM]] <br />
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As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
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Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank, Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, and despite him being the frontrunner he withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
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Morsi was before his involvement within PerspectieF member of [[w:DWARS|DWARS]], the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
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The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting <br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
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===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as the youth organization of the<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
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The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
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==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th in Gouda at the Chocholade Factory a former chocolade factory turned conferance room. The annual kickoff serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were [[w:Anja Haga|Anja Haga]], Member of the European Parliament ; [[w:Mirjam Bikker|Mirjam Bikker]], the party leader; [[w:Pieter Grinwis|Pieter Grinwis]], and [[w:Nico Drost|Nico Drost]] ' both MP's, [[w:Carla Dik-Faber|Carla Dik-Faber]], Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman. The kick-off offered their participants workshops in campaining, a session about the European Parliament, a discussion about Direct action and in public speeking <br />
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The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted due to this particular motion. <br />
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This motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF, is known for its serious and professional demeanor, historically maintained a reputation for a lack of emphasis on satire within its activities. This characterization stemmed from its identity as a confessional-oriented group, highlighting its serious approach to political engagement. Unlike its more left-leaning counterpart, DWARS, PerspectieF was seen as a bastion of gravity and formality,(such as members wearing suits and ties at every meeting) attracting members with a keen focus on professional political discourse rather than the utilization of satire. The organization's ethos primarily drew a demographic more aligned with serious political ideologies rather than the satirical and student like humor dominated ambiance that characterized DWARS. This distinction delineated PerspectieF as a contrasting hub for politically minded individuals seeking a more orthodox and somber approach to youth engagement within the political landscape. <br />
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The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic and that Amstel's "inferior quality didnt fit in the goals of PerspectieF" In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
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A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. And a lot of questions where asked. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted".This discussion also unintendedly arranged to adjourn at 20:30 local time. However, owing to extensive discussions and unforeseen deliberations, the meeting continued beyond the scheduled time, concluding at 21:15.<br />
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==Votes==<br />
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| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] presented, read and defended by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority: 25/45}}</div><br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding of the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
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Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
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Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. A member even send a letter personally thanking Morsi for the "for the energetic General Meeting, it was legendary" Morsi advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
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The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[w:Krokettenmotie|Krokettenmotie]] - a motion proposed in the municipal council of Amstelveen on 25 November 1993 by future Prime Minister of the Netherlands Jan Peter Balkenende, The motion called for the right of members of the municipal council to a croquette if a council meeting lasts until after 23:00. It was meant as a joke, but because the other parties agreed, the motion was adopted and is still in force<br />
*[[w:Polish Beer-Lovers' Party|Polish Beer-Lovers' Party]]</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664985User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-29T02:32:23Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Legacy */</p>
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
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|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
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|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <SMALL> (withdrawn before consideration </small> <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a [[w:parliamentary motion|motion]] proposed in the General Meeting of [[w:PerspectieF|PerspectieF]]. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by [[Shady Morsi]], a former [[w:Gemeenteraad#Duoraadslid|Duo-Councilor]] in [[w:Schiedam|Schiedam]], who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating [[w:Jobbik|period poverty]] and a condemnation of [[w:Jobbik|Jobbik]] joining the [[w:ECPM|ECPM]] <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank, Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, and despite him being the frontrunner he withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was before his involvement within PerspectieF member of [[w:DWARS|DWARS]], the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting <br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as the youth organization of the<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th in Gouda at the Chocholade Factory a former chocolade factory turned conferance room. The annual kickoff serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were [[w:Anja Haga|Anja Haga]], Member of the European Parliament ; [[w:Mirjam Bikker|Mirjam Bikker]], the party leader; [[w:Pieter Grinwis|Pieter Grinwis]], and [[w:Nico Drost|Nico Drost]] ' both MP's, [[w:Carla Dik-Faber|Carla Dik-Faber]], Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman. The kick-off offered their participants workshops in campaining, a session about the European Parliament, a discussion about Direct action and in public speeking <br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted due to this particular motion. <br />
<br />
This motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF, is known for its serious and professional demeanor, historically maintained a reputation for a lack of emphasis on satire within its activities. This characterization stemmed from its identity as a confessional-oriented group, highlighting its serious approach to political engagement. Unlike its more left-leaning counterpart, DWARS, PerspectieF was seen as a bastion of gravity and formality,(such as members wearing suits and ties at every meeting) attracting members with a keen focus on professional political discourse rather than the utilization of satire. The organization's ethos primarily drew a demographic more aligned with serious political ideologies rather than the satirical and student like humor dominated ambiance that characterized DWARS. This distinction delineated PerspectieF as a contrasting hub for politically minded individuals seeking a more orthodox and somber approach to youth engagement within the political landscape. <br />
<br />
The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic and that Amstel's "inferior quality didnt fit in the goals of PerspectieF" In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
<br />
A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. And a lot of questions where asked. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted".This discussion also unintendedly arranged to adjourn at 20:30 local time. However, owing to extensive discussions and unforeseen deliberations, the meeting continued beyond the scheduled time, concluding at 21:15.<br />
<br />
==Votes==<br />
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| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] presented, read and defended by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority: 25/45}}</div><br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
<br />
The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding of the motion". <br />
<br />
The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
<br />
Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
<br />
Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. A member even send a letter personally thanking Morsi for the "for the energetic General Meeting, it was legendary" Morsi advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
<br />
The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.<br />
<br />
==See Also==<br />
*[[w:Krokettenmotie|Krokettenmotie]] - a motion proposed in the municipal council of Amstelveen on 25 November 1993 by future Prime Minister of the Netherlands Jan Peter Balkenende, The motion called for the right of members of the municipal council to a croquette if a council meeting lasts until after 23:00. It was meant as a joke, but because the other parties agreed, the motion was adopted and is still in force<br />
*[[w:Polish Beer-Lovers' Party|Polish Beer-Lovers' Party]]</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664984User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-29T02:30:44Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Votes */</p>
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
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|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
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|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
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|amends =Counter Motion <SMALL> (withdrawn before consideration </small> <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a [[w:parliamentary motion|motion]] proposed in the General Meeting of [[w:PerspectieF|PerspectieF]]. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by [[Shady Morsi]], a former [[w:Gemeenteraad#Duoraadslid|Duo-Councilor]] in [[w:Schiedam|Schiedam]], who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating [[w:Jobbik|period poverty]] and a condemnation of [[w:Jobbik|Jobbik]] joining the [[w:ECPM|ECPM]] <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank, Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, and despite him being the frontrunner he withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was before his involvement within PerspectieF member of [[w:DWARS|DWARS]], the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting <br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as the youth organization of the<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th in Gouda at the Chocholade Factory a former chocolade factory turned conferance room. The annual kickoff serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were [[w:Anja Haga|Anja Haga]], Member of the European Parliament ; [[w:Mirjam Bikker|Mirjam Bikker]], the party leader; [[w:Pieter Grinwis|Pieter Grinwis]], and [[w:Nico Drost|Nico Drost]] ' both MP's, [[w:Carla Dik-Faber|Carla Dik-Faber]], Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman. The kick-off offered their participants workshops in campaining, a session about the European Parliament, a discussion about Direct action and in public speeking <br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted due to this particular motion. <br />
<br />
This motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF, is known for its serious and professional demeanor, historically maintained a reputation for a lack of emphasis on satire within its activities. This characterization stemmed from its identity as a confessional-oriented group, highlighting its serious approach to political engagement. Unlike its more left-leaning counterpart, DWARS, PerspectieF was seen as a bastion of gravity and formality,(such as members wearing suits and ties at every meeting) attracting members with a keen focus on professional political discourse rather than the utilization of satire. The organization's ethos primarily drew a demographic more aligned with serious political ideologies rather than the satirical and student like humor dominated ambiance that characterized DWARS. This distinction delineated PerspectieF as a contrasting hub for politically minded individuals seeking a more orthodox and somber approach to youth engagement within the political landscape. <br />
<br />
The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic and that Amstel's "inferior quality didnt fit in the goals of PerspectieF" In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
<br />
A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. And a lot of questions where asked. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted".This discussion also unintendedly arranged to adjourn at 20:30 local time. However, owing to extensive discussions and unforeseen deliberations, the meeting continued beyond the scheduled time, concluding at 21:15.<br />
<br />
==Votes==<br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding within the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
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Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
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Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. A member even send a letter personally thanking Morsi for the "for the energetic General Meeting, it was legendary" Morsi advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
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The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.<br />
==See Also==<br />
*[[w:Krokettenmotie|Krokettenmotie]] - a motion proposed in the municipal council of Amstelveen on 25 November 1993 by future Prime Minister of the Netherlands Jan Peter Balkenende, The motion called for the right of members of the municipal council to a croquette if a council meeting lasts until after 23:00. It was meant as a joke, but because the other parties agreed, the motion was adopted and is still in force<br />
*[[w:Polish Beer-Lovers' Party|Polish Beer-Lovers' Party]]</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664983User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-29T02:30:04Z<p>Kolkaria: /* English Text */</p>
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|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
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|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
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|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
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|amends =Counter Motion <SMALL> (withdrawn before consideration </small> <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
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|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a [[w:parliamentary motion|motion]] proposed in the General Meeting of [[w:PerspectieF|PerspectieF]]. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by [[Shady Morsi]], a former [[w:Gemeenteraad#Duoraadslid|Duo-Councilor]] in [[w:Schiedam|Schiedam]], who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating [[w:Jobbik|period poverty]] and a condemnation of [[w:Jobbik|Jobbik]] joining the [[w:ECPM|ECPM]] <br />
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As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
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Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank, Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, and despite him being the frontrunner he withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
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Morsi was before his involvement within PerspectieF member of [[w:DWARS|DWARS]], the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
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The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting <br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
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===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as the youth organization of the<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
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The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
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==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th in Gouda at the Chocholade Factory a former chocolade factory turned conferance room. The annual kickoff serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were [[w:Anja Haga|Anja Haga]], Member of the European Parliament ; [[w:Mirjam Bikker|Mirjam Bikker]], the party leader; [[w:Pieter Grinwis|Pieter Grinwis]], and [[w:Nico Drost|Nico Drost]] ' both MP's, [[w:Carla Dik-Faber|Carla Dik-Faber]], Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman. The kick-off offered their participants workshops in campaining, a session about the European Parliament, a discussion about Direct action and in public speeking <br />
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The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted due to this particular motion. <br />
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This motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF, is known for its serious and professional demeanor, historically maintained a reputation for a lack of emphasis on satire within its activities. This characterization stemmed from its identity as a confessional-oriented group, highlighting its serious approach to political engagement. Unlike its more left-leaning counterpart, DWARS, PerspectieF was seen as a bastion of gravity and formality,(such as members wearing suits and ties at every meeting) attracting members with a keen focus on professional political discourse rather than the utilization of satire. The organization's ethos primarily drew a demographic more aligned with serious political ideologies rather than the satirical and student like humor dominated ambiance that characterized DWARS. This distinction delineated PerspectieF as a contrasting hub for politically minded individuals seeking a more orthodox and somber approach to youth engagement within the political landscape. <br />
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The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic and that Amstel's "inferior quality didnt fit in the goals of PerspectieF" In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
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A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. And a lot of questions where asked. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted".This discussion also unintendedly arranged to adjourn at 20:30 local time. However, owing to extensive discussions and unforeseen deliberations, the meeting continued beyond the scheduled time, concluding at 21:15.<br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding within the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
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Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
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Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. A member even send a letter personally thanking Morsi for the "for the energetic General Meeting, it was legendary" Morsi advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
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The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.<br />
==See Also==<br />
*[[w:Krokettenmotie|Krokettenmotie]] - a motion proposed in the municipal council of Amstelveen on 25 November 1993 by future Prime Minister of the Netherlands Jan Peter Balkenende, The motion called for the right of members of the municipal council to a croquette if a council meeting lasts until after 23:00. It was meant as a joke, but because the other parties agreed, the motion was adopted and is still in force<br />
*[[w:Polish Beer-Lovers' Party|Polish Beer-Lovers' Party]]</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664981User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-29T02:22:08Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Events */</p>
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|amends =Counter Motion <SMALL> (withdrawn before consideration </small> <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a [[w:parliamentary motion|motion]] proposed in the General Meeting of [[w:PerspectieF|PerspectieF]]. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by [[Shady Morsi]], a former [[w:Gemeenteraad#Duoraadslid|Duo-Councilor]] in [[w:Schiedam|Schiedam]], who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating [[w:Jobbik|period poverty]] and a condemnation of [[w:Jobbik|Jobbik]] joining the [[w:ECPM|ECPM]] <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
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Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank, Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, and despite him being the frontrunner he withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
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Morsi was before his involvement within PerspectieF member of [[w:DWARS|DWARS]], the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
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The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting <br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th in Gouda at the Chocholade Factory a former chocolade factory turned conferance room. The annual kickoff serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were [[w:Anja Haga|Anja Haga]], Member of the European Parliament ; [[w:Mirjam Bikker|Mirjam Bikker]], the party leader; [[w:Pieter Grinwis|Pieter Grinwis]], and [[w:Nico Drost|Nico Drost]] ' both MP's, [[w:Carla Dik-Faber|Carla Dik-Faber]], Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman. The kick-off offered their participants workshops in campaining, a session about the European Parliament, a discussion about Direct action and in public speeking <br />
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The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted due to this particular motion. <br />
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This motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF, is known for its serious and professional demeanor, historically maintained a reputation for a lack of emphasis on satire within its activities. This characterization stemmed from its identity as a confessional-oriented group, highlighting its serious approach to political engagement. Unlike its more left-leaning counterpart, DWARS, PerspectieF was seen as a bastion of gravity and formality,(such as members wearing suits and ties at every meeting) attracting members with a keen focus on professional political discourse rather than the utilization of satire. The organization's ethos primarily drew a demographic more aligned with serious political ideologies rather than the satirical and student like humor dominated ambiance that characterized DWARS. This distinction delineated PerspectieF as a contrasting hub for politically minded individuals seeking a more orthodox and somber approach to youth engagement within the political landscape. <br />
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The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic and that Amstel's "inferior quality didnt fit in the goals of PerspectieF" In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
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A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. And a lot of questions where asked. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted".This discussion also unintendedly arranged to adjourn at 20:30 local time. However, owing to extensive discussions and unforeseen deliberations, the meeting continued beyond the scheduled time, concluding at 21:15.<br />
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==Votes==<br />
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| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] presented, read and defended by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
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| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding within the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
<br />
Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
<br />
Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. A member even send a letter personally thanking Morsi for the "for the energetic General Meeting, it was legendary" Morsi advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
<br />
The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.<br />
==See Also==<br />
*[[w:Krokettenmotie|Krokettenmotie]] - a motion proposed in the municipal council of Amstelveen on 25 November 1993 by future Prime Minister of the Netherlands Jan Peter Balkenende, The motion called for the right of members of the municipal council to a croquette if a council meeting lasts until after 23:00. It was meant as a joke, but because the other parties agreed, the motion was adopted and is still in force<br />
*[[w:Polish Beer-Lovers' Party|Polish Beer-Lovers' Party]]</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664980User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-29T02:14:53Z<p>Kolkaria: </p>
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
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|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
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|amends =Counter Motion <SMALL> (withdrawn before consideration </small> <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a [[w:parliamentary motion|motion]] proposed in the General Meeting of [[w:PerspectieF|PerspectieF]]. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by [[Shady Morsi]], a former [[w:Gemeenteraad#Duoraadslid|Duo-Councilor]] in [[w:Schiedam|Schiedam]], who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating [[w:Jobbik|period poverty]] and a condemnation of [[w:Jobbik|Jobbik]] joining the [[w:ECPM|ECPM]] <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank, Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, and despite him being the frontrunner he withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was before his involvement within PerspectieF member of [[w:DWARS|DWARS]], the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting <br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th in Gouda at the Chocholade Factory a former chocolade factory turned conferance room. The annual kickoff serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were [[w:Anja Haga|Anja Haga]], Member of the European Parliament ; [[w:Mirjam Bikker|Mirjam Bikker]], the party leader; [[w:Pieter Grinwis|Pieter Grinwis]], and [[w:Nico Drost|Nico Drost]] ' both MP's, [[w:Carla Dik-Faber|Carla Dik-Faber]], Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman. The kick-off offered their participants workshops in campaining, a session about the European Parliament, a discussion about Direct action and in public speeking <br />
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The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted due to this particular motion. This motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation due to its confessional nature as opposed to DWARS which was more left leaning, satirical and often populated by students <br />
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The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic and that Amstel's "inferior quality didnt fit in the goals of PerspectieF" In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
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A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. And a lot of questions where asked. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted".This discussion also unintendedly arranged to adjourn at 20:30 local time. However, owing to extensive discussions and unforeseen deliberations, the meeting continued beyond the scheduled time, concluding at 21:15.<br />
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==Votes==<br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding within the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
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Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
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Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. A member even send a letter personally thanking Morsi for the "for the energetic General Meeting, it was legendary" Morsi advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
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The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.<br />
==See Also==<br />
*[[w:Krokettenmotie|Krokettenmotie]] - a motion proposed in the municipal council of Amstelveen on 25 November 1993 by future Prime Minister of the Netherlands Jan Peter Balkenende, The motion called for the right of members of the municipal council to a croquette if a council meeting lasts until after 23:00. It was meant as a joke, but because the other parties agreed, the motion was adopted and is still in force<br />
*[[w:Polish Beer-Lovers' Party|Polish Beer-Lovers' Party]]</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664960User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-29T01:57:56Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Votes */</p>
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|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
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|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
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|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
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|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
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|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
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|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
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As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
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Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
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Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
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The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
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==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
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===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
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===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
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The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
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==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman. The kick-off offered their participants workshops in campaining, a session about the European Parliament, a discussion about Direct action and in public speeking <br />
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The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted due to this particular motion. This motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation due to its confessional nature as opposed to DWARS which was more left leaning, satirical and often populated by students <br />
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The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic and that Amstel's "inferior quality didnt fit in the goals of PerspectieF" In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
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A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. And a lot of questions where asked. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted".This discussion also unintendedly arranged to adjourn at 20:30 local time. However, owing to extensive discussions and unforeseen deliberations, the meeting continued beyond the scheduled time, concluding at 21:15.<br />
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==Votes==<br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding within the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
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Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
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Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. He advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
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The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664959User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-29T01:57:26Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Votes */</p>
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
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|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
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===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman. The kick-off offered their participants workshops in campaining, a session about the European Parliament, a discussion about Direct action and in public speeking <br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted due to this particular motion. This motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation due to its confessional nature as opposed to DWARS which was more left leaning, satirical and often populated by students <br />
<br />
The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic and that Amstel's "inferior quality didnt fit in the goals of PerspectieF" In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
<br />
A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. And a lot of questions where asked. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted".This discussion also unintendedly arranged to adjourn at 20:30 local time. However, owing to extensive discussions and unforeseen deliberations, the meeting continued beyond the scheduled time, concluding at 21:15.<br />
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==Votes==<br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding within the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
<br />
Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
<br />
Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. He advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
<br />
The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664958User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-29T01:48:28Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Votes */</p>
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
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|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
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|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
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|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
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|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman. The kick-off offered their participants workshops in campaining, a session about the European Parliament, a discussion about Direct action and in public speeking <br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted due to this particular motion. This motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation due to its confessional nature as opposed to DWARS which was more left leaning, satirical and often populated by students <br />
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The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic and that Amstel's "inferior quality didnt fit in the goals of PerspectieF" In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
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A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. And a lot of questions where asked. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted".This discussion also unintendedly arranged to adjourn at 20:30 local time. However, owing to extensive discussions and unforeseen deliberations, the meeting continued beyond the scheduled time, concluding at 21:15.<br />
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==Votes==<br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding within the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
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Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
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Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. He advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
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The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664957User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-29T01:48:06Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Events */</p>
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|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
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|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
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|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
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|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
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|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
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|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
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|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
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As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
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Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
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Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
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The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
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==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
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===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
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===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
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The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
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==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman. The kick-off offered their participants workshops in campaining, a session about the European Parliament, a discussion about Direct action and in public speeking <br />
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The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted due to this particular motion. This motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation due to its confessional nature as opposed to DWARS which was more left leaning, satirical and often populated by students <br />
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The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic and that Amstel's "inferior quality didnt fit in the goals of PerspectieF" In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
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A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. And a lot of questions where asked. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted".This discussion also unintendedly arranged to adjourn at 20:30 local time. However, owing to extensive discussions and unforeseen deliberations, the meeting continued beyond the scheduled time, concluding at 21:15.<br />
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==Votes==<br />
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| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding within the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
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Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
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Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. He advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
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The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=File:Amstel_Beer.jpg&diff=1664398File:Amstel Beer.jpg2023-10-28T03:12:18Z<p>Kolkaria: </p>
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
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|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
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Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
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The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
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===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted This particular motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation. <br />
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The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, marked a significant decision within PerspectieF, the youth organization associated with the Christian Union. The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic. In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
<br />
A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted"<br />
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==Votes==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
|- bgcolor="#D8D8D8"<br />
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| width=425px | '''Votes'''<br />
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|-<br />
| {{tick}} In Favor || {{Composition bar|10|45|hex=green}}<br />
|-<br />
| '''Against'''|| {{Composition bar|31|45|hex=red}}<br />
|-<br />
| Abstentions || {{Composition bar|4|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding within the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
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Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
<br />
Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. He advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
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The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664396User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-28T03:11:41Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Background */</p>
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
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|image_upright = <br />
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|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
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|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
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|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
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|bill_citation = <br />
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
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|date_conf_committee = <br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
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As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|250px|thumb|right|Shady Morsi]]<br />
[[File:Amstel Beer.jpg|250px|thumb|right|Amstel Beer, The beer Morsi strongly dislikes]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted This particular motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation. <br />
<br />
The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, marked a significant decision within PerspectieF, the youth organization associated with the Christian Union. The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic. In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
<br />
A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted"<br />
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==Votes==<br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding within the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
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Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
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Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. He advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
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The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664395User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-28T03:10:12Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Legacy */</p>
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
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|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
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|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
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|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
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|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
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As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
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Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|thumb|Shady Morsi]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
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Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
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The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
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==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
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===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
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===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
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The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
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==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
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The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted This particular motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation. <br />
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The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, marked a significant decision within PerspectieF, the youth organization associated with the Christian Union. The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic. In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
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A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted"<br />
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==Legacy==<br />
The motion, despite its satirical nature, sparked intense debate within PerspectieF, a reaction that differed significantly from the reception typically accorded to serious political motions., Oudman, expressed surprise at the level of attention, remarking that the motion generated more discussion than expected. Oudman was quoted saying, "I expected the laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense. It's insane that this one gets the most coverage." <br />
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The rapid escalation of the motion caught many off guard, with Morsi particularly shocked by its trajectory. "The situation took an unexpected turn when a board member suggested a complete ban on alcohol, expressing dismay at what they perceived as a significant misunderstanding within the motion". <br />
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The impact extended beyond PerspectieF, drawing reactions from other members of various political youth organizations. Xenia Minnaert, chairwoman of PINK, expressed amazement at the unfolding events. Furthermore, Zandberg reacted to Minnaert's response by stating that she had "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation," <br />
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Criticism of the motion was vocal, with detractors dismissing it as trivial. Some opponents argued that the motion, centered around beer, was inconsequential, unnessesary and stupid stating phrases like "Beer is Beer" and expressing sentiments such as "I thought that was somewhat of a waste of time." Many critics highlighted that the motion added little to the organization's overarching goals, leading to some labeling it as "the worst motion ever written." <br />
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Conversely, proponents of the motion highlighted the invaluable impact of the discussions it generated. Morsi aimed to infuse PerspectieF with a more youthful and inclusive spirit, emphasizing the importance of fostering engaging discussions among the organization's members. Morsi articulated a vision for PerspectieF, stating that it should not solely focus on serious matters. He advocated for a balance, mentioning, "PerspectieF shouldn't be that serious all the time. We are young as well, and some tomfoolery is allowed." Morsi aimed to create a more vibrant environment for political discourse within the youth organization.Morsi was amazsed at the unexpected focus on beer, expressing disbelief that his political legacy within PerspectieF would be tied to such a subject. He highlighted the significance of the organization in providing a platform for youthful perspectives, explaining, "You can sometimes be a student at the political youth organization. This, however, is unthinkable in mature politics once you are representing our mother party (ChristianUnion)."<br />
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The motion's contentious nature and subsequent discussions not only brought attention to the nature of political discourse within the youth organization but also emphasized the evolving role of young voices in shaping political narratives. Despite the controversy surrounding the motion, it served as a catalyst for important conversations regarding the balance between serious political engagement and the inclusion of more lighthearted or unconventional topics within youth political groups.</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664365User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-28T02:51:08Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Legacy */</p>
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|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
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|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
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|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
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|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
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As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
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Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|thumb|Shady Morsi]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted This particular motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation. <br />
<br />
The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, marked a significant decision within PerspectieF, the youth organization associated with the Christian Union. The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic. In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
<br />
A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted"<br />
<br />
==Votes==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
|- bgcolor="#D8D8D8"<br />
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| width=425px | '''Votes'''<br />
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|-<br />
| {{tick}} In Favor || {{Composition bar|10|45|hex=green}}<br />
|-<br />
| '''Against'''|| {{Composition bar|31|45|hex=red}}<br />
|-<br />
| Abstentions || {{Composition bar|4|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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==Legacy==<br />
Despite the prankish mood and the obviously satirical imput of the motion, the motion had an unexpected impact within PerspectieF. It was firsly more debated than serious political motions causing Oudman to state that she expected the "laundry list of substantive motions to be more intense, Its insane that this one gets the most coverage", Morsi was schoked that the motion escalated very fast that a board member want to ban alchol all together saying that "This motion has the worst misunderstanding of all. Though i can also understand her view" Other members of political youth organisations where amazed Xenia Minnaert chairwoman of PINK reacted so schoked, Zandberg reacted on X that she "survived a Congress and motion of lamentation"</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664349User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-28T02:39:18Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Votes */</p>
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
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|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
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|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
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|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
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|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|thumb|Shady Morsi]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted This particular motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation. <br />
<br />
The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, marked a significant decision within PerspectieF, the youth organization associated with the Christian Union. The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic. In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
<br />
A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted"<br />
<br />
==Votes==<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
|- bgcolor="#D8D8D8"<br />
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| width=425px | '''Votes'''<br />
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|-<br />
| {{tick}} In Favor || {{Composition bar|10|45|hex=green}}<br />
|-<br />
| '''Against'''|| {{Composition bar|31|45|hex=red}}<br />
|-<br />
| Abstentions || {{Composition bar|4|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=File:ShadyMorsi2023.png&diff=1664348File:ShadyMorsi2023.png2023-10-28T02:36:44Z<p>Kolkaria: </p>
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
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|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
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|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
[[File:ShadyMorsi2023.png|thumb|Shady Morsi]]<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted This particular motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation. <br />
<br />
The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, marked a significant decision within PerspectieF, the youth organization associated with the Christian Union. The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic. In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
<br />
A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted"<br />
<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
|- bgcolor="#D8D8D8"<br />
| width=80px | '''Vote'''<br />
| width=425px | '''Votes'''<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| {{tick}} In Favor || {{Composition bar|10|45|hex=green}}<br />
|-<br />
| '''Against'''|| {{Composition bar|31|45|hex=red}}<br />
|-<br />
| Abstentions || {{Composition bar|4|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted This particular motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation. <br />
<br />
The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, marked a significant decision within PerspectieF, the youth organization associated with the Christian Union. The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic. In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
<br />
A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. She argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted"<br />
<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
|- bgcolor="#D8D8D8"<br />
| width=80px | '''Vote'''<br />
| width=425px | '''Votes'''<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| {{tick}} In Favor || {{Composition bar|10|45|hex=green}}<br />
|-<br />
| '''Against'''|| {{Composition bar|31|45|hex=red}}<br />
|-<br />
| Abstentions || {{Composition bar|4|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
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<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
[[File:ChocoladeFabriek.jpg|thumb|The Chocolade Factory, the Place where the motion was discussed]]<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted This particular motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation. <br />
<br />
The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, marked a significant decision within PerspectieF, the youth organization associated with the Christian Union. The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic. In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
<br />
A. Oudman emerged as a defender of the motion, advocating for its implementation. However, the wording of the proposal raised concerns among some members, including Incumbent Board Member E. Zandberg, specifically regarding the broader implications on drink choices during conferences. Zandberg expressed a more stringent perspective, suggesting the complete abolition of alcoholic beverages during PerspectieF events. He argued that the selection of drinks wielded a substantial influence on the overall experience and professional image of these gatherings. Zandberg even went as far as suggesting the elimination of beer entirely from conferences organized by PerspectieF, However, Zandberg's counter motion encountered notable opposition and was ultimately withdrawn, reflecting its unpopularity among the organization's members. The ensuing debates regarding the initial ban on Amstel Beer concluded with a vote, wherein the motion was ultimately rejected. The voting outcome stood at 31 against the ban and 10 in favor with 4 absentions. Mainly "because Amstel was not the only one who should/could be boycotted"<br />
<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
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| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
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|-<br />
| {{tick}} In Favor || {{Composition bar|10|45|hex=green}}<br />
|-<br />
| '''Against'''|| {{Composition bar|31|45|hex=red}}<br />
|-<br />
| Abstentions || {{Composition bar|4|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664341User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-28T02:30:56Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Motion */</p>
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
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|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
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|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
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|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
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|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, who was a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen offered herself to represent Morsi at the General Meeting, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted This particular motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation. <br />
<br />
The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, marked a significant decision within PerspectieF, the youth organization associated with the Christian Union. The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic. In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
|- bgcolor="#D8D8D8"<br />
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===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
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|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
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|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
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|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title '''Avondmaal Zonder Amstel,''' (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted This particular motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation. <br />
<br />
The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, marked a significant decision within PerspectieF, the youth organization associated with the Christian Union. The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic. In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
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==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
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| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
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===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
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|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
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|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
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|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
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|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
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|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted This particular motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation. <br />
<br />
The motion was put forward by A. Oudman (who covered the other motions aswell), presenting a statement authored by Shady Morsi, marked a significant decision within PerspectieF, the youth organization associated with the Christian Union. The statement articulated the organization's commitment to delivering high-quality experiences while aiming to offer substantial meaning and inspiration to the younger demographic. In response to this statement, the board deliberated and provided their response,<br />
<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
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|-<br />
| '''Against'''|| {{Composition bar|31|45|hex=red}}<br />
|-<br />
| Abstentions || {{Composition bar|4|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
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|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
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|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
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|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
|committee_report = <br />
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|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event on October 14th and serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, and Nico Drost' both MP's, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner around 18:00 local time and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon uneventfully, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted This particular motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. as PerspectieF was considered to be a more serious professional political youth organisation. <br />
<br />
The motion was read by A. Oudman who read a statement writen by Shady Morsi.<br />
<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
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| {{tick}} In Favor || {{Composition bar|10|45|hex=green}}<br />
|-<br />
| '''Against'''|| {{Composition bar|31|45|hex=red}}<br />
|-<br />
| Abstentions || {{Composition bar|4|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
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{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
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|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
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|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
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|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
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|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
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|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, MP; and Nico Drost, MP, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon without any major incidents, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted This particular motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. The motion which was seen as prankish and or divisive was debated on<br />
<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
|- bgcolor="#D8D8D8"<br />
| width=80px | '''Vote'''<br />
| width=425px | '''Votes'''<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| {{tick}} In Favor || {{Composition bar|10|45|hex=green}}<br />
|-<br />
| '''Against'''|| {{Composition bar|31|45|hex=red}}<br />
|-<br />
| Abstentions || {{Composition bar|4|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664109User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-27T19:19:12Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Events */</p>
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<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, MP; and Nico Drost, MP, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
<br />
The general meeting commenced after dinner and was characterized by several essential segments, including amendments, presentations of plans from the board, and a dedicated question hour where members had the opportunity to seek clarification and raise questions The heart of the General Meeting was the discussion and voting on various motions proposed during the event. The first five motions on the agenda were voted upon without any major incidents, However, the tranquility of the meeting was disrupted This particular motion seemed to draw substantial attention and debate. It is essential to note that "Avondmaal zonder Amstel" is an intriguing and cryptic phrase, and it didnt represent the organization's culture or agenda. The motion which was seen as prankish and or divisive was debated on<br />
<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
|- bgcolor="#D8D8D8"<br />
| width=80px | '''Vote'''<br />
| width=425px | '''Votes'''<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| {{tick}} In Favor || {{Composition bar|10|45|hex=green}}<br />
|-<br />
| '''Against'''|| {{Composition bar|31|45|hex=red}}<br />
|-<br />
| Abstentions || {{Composition bar|4|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664107User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-27T19:12:31Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Events */</p>
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<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
The PerspectieF General Meeting was held during the Kick-Off event serves as the traditional commencement of the new political year for PerspectieF,The event was marked by its heightened significance due to its alignment with the upcoming Dutch Election. Given this focus, a notable array of CU dignitaries and prominent figures graced the occasion. Among those in attendance were Anja Haga, Member of the European Parliament ; Mirjam Bikker, the party leader; Pieter Grinwis, MP; and Nico Drost, MP, Carla Dik-Faber, Former MP and Ankie van Tatehove, the party's chairwoman<br />
<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
|- bgcolor="#D8D8D8"<br />
| width=80px | '''Vote'''<br />
| width=425px | '''Votes'''<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| {{tick}} In Favor || {{Composition bar|10|45|hex=green}}<br />
|-<br />
| '''Against'''|| {{Composition bar|31|45|hex=red}}<br />
|-<br />
| Abstentions || {{Composition bar|4|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664102User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-27T19:07:46Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Votes for the Original Motion */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 October 2023<br>/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
|- bgcolor="#D8D8D8"<br />
| width=80px | '''Vote'''<br />
| width=425px | '''Votes'''<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| {{tick}} In Favor || {{Composition bar|10|45|hex=green}}<br />
|-<br />
| '''Against'''|| {{Composition bar|31|45|hex=red}}<br />
|-<br />
| Abstentions || {{Composition bar|4|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664093User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-27T19:01:33Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Votes for the Original Motion */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="3" bgcolor="#C0C0C0" | <div style="text-align: center;">'''14 December 1978<br/Motion 6, Avondmaal zonder Amstel'''<br/>{{small|Motion proposed by [[Shady Morsi]] spoken by A. Oudman }}<br/>{{small|Absolute majority:}}</div><br />
|- bgcolor="#D8D8D8"<br />
| width=80px | '''Vote'''<br />
| width=425px | '''Votes'''<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| {{tick}} In Favor || {{Composition bar|10|45|hex=green}}<br />
|-<br />
| '''Against'''|| {{Composition bar|31|45|hex=red}}<br />
|-<br />
| Abstentions || {{Composition bar|4|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
| Vote Comission || {{Composition bar|3|45|hex=gray}}<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664080User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-27T18:54:04Z<p>Kolkaria: /* English Text */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
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|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
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|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
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|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
'''Noting that''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
'''Whereas''':<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
'''Requests the Board to:'''<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664077User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-27T18:53:45Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Dutch Text */</p>
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<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
'''Constaterende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
'''Overwegende dat''':<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
'''Verzoekt het bestuur''':<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br><br />
<br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
Noting that:<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
Whereas:<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
Requests the Board to:<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664066User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-27T18:47:35Z<p>Kolkaria: </p>
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<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed =None (independent) <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Anti-Heineken Motie <br> Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
|repeals=1 <br> (counter motion)}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
Constaterende dat:<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
Overwegende dat:<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
Verzoekt het bestuur:<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br> <br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
Noting that:<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
Whereas:<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
Requests the Board to:<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664060User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-27T18:45:54Z<p>Kolkaria: </p>
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<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed = <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = S. Mol<br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
Constaterende dat:<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
Overwegende dat:<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
Verzoekt het bestuur:<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br> <br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
Noting that:<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
Whereas:<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
Requests the Board to:<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
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<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed = <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = <br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|2nd_reading_for =2 <br />
|2nd_reading_against =44 <br />
|2nd_reading_abstention =0<br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
Constaterende dat:<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
Overwegende dat:<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
Verzoekt het bestuur:<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br> <br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
Noting that:<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
Whereas:<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
Requests the Board to:<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664049User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-27T18:35:24Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Motion */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed = <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = <br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
Constaterende dat:<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
Overwegende dat:<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
Verzoekt het bestuur:<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br> <br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
Noting that:<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
Whereas:<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
Requests the Board to:<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of the assembly with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for onebeer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
mentioned Amstel. This. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask the assembly to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664048User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-27T18:33:42Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Motion */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed = <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = <br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
Constaterende dat:<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
Overwegende dat:<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
Verzoekt het bestuur:<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br> <br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
Noting that:<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
Whereas:<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
Requests the Board to:<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
The General Board of PerspectieF's pre-advise was judgment of congress with the reasoning being:<br />
{{blockquote|text=<br />
{{lang|en|The board believes that it is not in a position to determine everyone's preference for one<br />
determine beer brand. However, members have been approached about their favorite beer brand and no one has<br />
Amstel mentioned this. That is why the board understands the call for Amstel<br />
to boycott it completely, but ultimately wants to ask Congress to definitively do it<br />
to pass judgment on Amstel}}<br />
This is Not a Pipe.<br />
|multiline=yes<br />
|author=Board of PerspectieF<br />
|title=Preadvies Motie 6 <br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664033User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-27T18:25:39Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Motion */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed = <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = <br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
The motion was one of a series of 13 motions introduced during the Kick-off 2023 event held in Gouda. These motions were brought forth by Shady Morsi, Morsi was the sole contributor of motions during the event. However, due to his absence at the convention, (as he was situated in Egypt at the time), he designated A. Oudman to represent him and act as his spokeswoman. A. Oudman, a fellow member of PerspectieF and a provincial politician from Groningen, Avondmaal Zonder Amstel was the sixth motion being covered in the General Meeting<br />
<br />
===Dutch Text===<br />
''Het congres van PerspectieF, ChristenUnie-Jongeren, in vergadering bijeen op zaterdag 14 oktober 2023 te Gouda, <br> <br />
Constaterende dat:<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar kwaliteit in haar werk als jongerenorganisatie van de<br />
ChristenUnie en heeft als doel om jongeren te betrekken en te inspireren<br> <br />
- Amstel Bier is zo generiek dat het onmogelijk is om het te onderscheiden van een<br />
dozijn andere goedkope biermerken <br> <br />
Overwegende dat:<br> <br />
- PerspectieF streeft naar hoogwaardige en zinvolle bijeenkomsten voor haar<br />
deelnemers.<br> <br />
- De keuze van dranken tijdens congressen heeft een significante invloed op de<br />
ervaring en de professionele uitstraling van het evenement.<br> <br />
- Amstel-bier een veelvoorkomend en populair merk is, maar dat de kwaliteit en<br />
uitstraling niet altijd overeenkomen met de doelstellingen van PerspectieF<br> <br />
Verzoekt het bestuur:<br />
- Vanaf de volgende congressen en/of Kick-offs om geen Amstel-bier te serveren''<br> <br />
===English Text===<br />
''The conference of PerspectieF, Christian Union-Youth, meeting on Saturday, October 14, 2023 in Gouda, <br><br />
Noting that:<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for quality in its work as a youth organization<br />
ChristenUnie and aims to involve and inspire young people<br />
- Amstel Bier is so generic that it is impossible to distinguish it from one<br />
dozen other cheap beer brands <br><br />
Whereas:<br><br />
- PerspectieF strives for high-quality and meaningful meetings for her<br />
participants.<br><br />
- The choice of drinks during conferences has a significant influence on the<br />
experience and the professional appearance of the event.<br><br />
- Amstel beer is a common and popular brand, but the quality and...<br />
appearance does not always match the objectives of PerspectieF<br><br />
Requests the Board to:<br />
- From the next conferences and/or Kick-offs not to serve Amstel beer''<br><br />
<br />
==Events==<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664026User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-27T18:17:08Z<p>Kolkaria: </p>
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<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed = <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = <br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
<br />
==Motion==<br />
==Events==<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664024User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-27T18:15:39Z<p>Kolkaria: /* Background */</p>
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<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed = <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|bill_date2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
|3rd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|conf_committee_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|committee_report2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|date_conf_committee = <br />
<br />
|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
|preliminary_reading_abstention = <br />
|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
|preliminary_reading_presentnotvoting = <br />
|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
|1st_reading_abstention =4 <br />
|1st_reading_absent = <br />
|white_paper = <br />
|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
<br />
As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
<br />
Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
Shady Morsi who was a duo-councilor in Schiedam for the [[w:ChristenUnie|ChristenUnie]] was also very involved within the parties youth wing PerspectieF, Morsi sat in PerspectieF's Europe Comitee, Congress Comitee and its think thank,Morsi also sought to further his involvement by running for a board position, but withdrew due to commitments related to his college education, <br />
<br />
Morsi was also member of DWARS, the political youth organization of [[w:GreenLeft|GreenLeft]] and served in its education comission. One of the significant developments during Morsi's involvement in DWARS was the introduction of a motion in 2019. This motion aimed to implement a ban on the consumption of Heineken products at all DWARS events and congresses. The rationale behind this motion was grounded in environmental and social concerns, aligning with GreenLeft's principles and ideals. The motion was re-affirmed during a subsequent congress held in 2022. This re-affirmation solidified the organization's commitment to the cause, emphasizing the importance of responsible consumption and sustainable practices.<br />
<br />
The motion to ban Heineken at DWARS events served as the primary inspiration for the "Avondmaal zonder Amstel". Though the motion was based on Morsi's personal dislike for Amstel Morsi's aversion to Amstel Beer was evident in his vocal criticism of the brand. He famously likened Amstel beer to "piss" on multiple occasions, drawing attention to its perceived inferior taste and quality. He further emphasized his disdain by humorously noting that "at least real urine is recyclable"<br />
<br />
==Context==<br />
==Motion==<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkariahttps://micronations.wiki/index.php?title=User:Kolkaria/sandbox4&diff=1664000User:Kolkaria/sandbox42023-10-27T17:58:03Z<p>Kolkaria: </p>
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<div>{{Infobox legislation<br />
|short_title = Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|legislature = General Meeting of PerspectieF<br />
|image = Motie Avondmaal Zonder Amstel.jpg<br />
|imagesize = 250px<br />
|image_upright = <br />
|imagealt = <br />
|caption = The Motion being presented at the PerspectieF Congress<br />
|long_title =Motion 6: Avondmaal Zonder Amstel <br />
|citation = <br />
|territorial_extent = <br />
|enacted_by = <!-- For bicameral legislatures, this is the chamber the bill was first introduced. --><br />
|date_enacted = 14 October 2023<br />
|date_passed = <br />
|enacted_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Use if bill passed the second chamber. --><br />
|date_enacted2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_passed2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Pick one of date_enacted2 or date_passed2 as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_assented = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|royal_assent = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_signed = <!-- Pick none or one of date_assented, royal_assent or date_signed as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|signed_by = <!-- Only use if date_signed is used. --><br />
|date_commenced = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_effective = <!-- Pick one of date_commenced or date_effective as appropriate in jurisdiction. --><br />
|date_of_expiry = <br />
|date_repealed =14 October 2023 <br />
|administered_by = <br />
|bill = <!-- Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by or considered_by. Omit if the legislation is still a bill in this chamber and the bill name used in short_title. --><br />
|bill_citation = <br />
|bill_date = <br />
|introduced_by = [[Shady Morsi]] <br />
|1st_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|2nd_reading = E. Zandberg <Small> (counter motion) </Small><br />
|3rd_reading =A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small> <br />
|conf_committee_passed = <br />
|committee_report = <br />
|bill2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of relevant bill debated in the chamber listed in enacted_by2 or considered_by2. --><br />
|bill_citation2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
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|introduced_by2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Name of member introducing the bill in the chamber. --><br />
|1st_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. --><br />
|2nd_reading2 = <!-- For bicameral legislatures only. Specify date range for multi-day readings. --><br />
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|preliminary_reading = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_for = A. Oudman <Small> (On behalf of Shady Morsi) </small><br />
|preliminary_reading_against = E. Zandberg <br />
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|preliminary_reading_absent =N/A <br />
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|1st_reading_for =10 <br />
|1st_reading_against =31 <br />
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|amends =Counter Motion <br />
|related_legislation = Shady Morsi's other motions <br />
|summary = To not serve [[w:Amstel Brewery|Amstel Beer]] at PerspectieF conferences and/or Kick-offs<br />
|keywords = <br />
|status = not passed<br />
}}The '''Amstel Bier Motie''', with its official title Avondmaal Zonder Amstel, (English:"Supper without Amstel") is a motion proposed in the General Meeting of PerspectieF. This motion, which has garnered attention within the organization, was introduced by Shady Morsi, a former Duo-Councilor in Schiedam, who has been actively involved with PerspectieF since 2021. The core objective of the motion is to advocate for a ban on Amstel Beer during the organization's future kick-offs and conferences. The motion was a highly debated and tumultuous event causing an unexpected and unprecedented wave of commotion and discussions among members. This motion took center stage and overshadowed many other important political motions which was also introduced by Morsi. Including combating period poverty and a condemnation of Jobbik joining the ECPM <br />
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As the debates over the Amstel boycott motion raged on, a counter-motion emerged, from the board suggesting the complete ban of all beer brands. Due to the motion's wording This counter-motion aimed to address the issue by targeting the entire industry and also combating alcholism alltoghether, rather than singling out one particular brand. It was a contentious proposal that sought to eliminate the root cause of the dispute by banning all beer consumption in PerspectieF The counter-motion was eventually struck down by the members of the legislative body. This decision reflected the realization that a blanket ban on beer would be an overreach, After a prolonged period of passionate debates and commotion, the original motion to boycott Amstel was put to a final vote. Surprisingly, it was voted down, leaving Amstel untouched. The decision to reject the motion demonstrated that the general membership believed Amstel was not the sole culprit in the dispute, and that a more nuanced approach was needed to address the underlying issues.<br />
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Although initially made partialy as a joke, partial due to Morsi's dislike of Amstel Beer, the motion had a substantial and far-reaching impact on PerspectieF and its internal discourse. The controversy surrounding the motion sparked a lively internal debate, highlighting the organization's commitment to democratic principles and its willingness to engage in open and transparent discussions. Ultimately, the discussion about Amstel Beer Motion was seen as one of the "most lively debates" in the organisation and one member described as "one of the most legendary meetings ever"<br />
==Background==<br />
==Context==<br />
==Motion==<br />
==Votes==<br />
===Votes for the Original Motion===<br />
===Votes for the Counter Motion===<br />
==Legacy==</div>Kolkaria